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Old 06-10-2010, 12:32 AM   #31
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So the news is so much worse than I thought.

2 Year Bowl Ban and loss of more than 20 scholies. I seriously feel ill.
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Old 06-10-2010, 01:48 AM   #32
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Not sure how I feel about this Pac-16 thing. Nebraska? Fuck em. Good riddance. But the Big XII is a pretty good situation for Texas until we get our own network (don't scoff, this is likely). I guess we'll see how everything shakes out Friday. aggy really thinks the SEC wants them and only them. High comedy.

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Old 06-10-2010, 01:56 AM   #33
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So the Big XII is just dissolving entirely? I have no idea what led up to this. Sixteen teams in one conference sounds like a major clustercuss. There shouldn't be more than 12, and even then, they should be in separate divisions.
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Old 06-10-2010, 03:07 AM   #34
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My understanding is the eight teams in either division (ASU and U of A joining the six Big XII teams) would play solely in their division each year, with the two champs meeting in the Pac 16 CCG. But I might be way off.

EDIT: I am sort of way off:

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he new conference would be split into divisions with Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Colorado forming an Eastern Division with Arizona and Arizona State opposite the former Pac-8 (USC, UCLA, Stanford, Washington, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) in the Western Division.

The [anonymous Big XII] coach said it's possible the Pac-16 would push for two automatic bids to the BCS, one for each division champion. That potential bonanza could open the possibility of the two division champs from one league playing for the national title, and it would eliminate the need for a conference championship game.
No CCG and two automatic bids? Since it makes the road to MNC's easier, I'm sort of for it. If every conference isn't going to have a CCG, may as well pull a Big 10 and get a direct route to the 'ship every year. As long as OU doesn't get said route.

Plus we get the two hottest pom squads in the NCAA together at last:



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The moves suck for Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State and Baylor but this was a long time coming. They should have anticipated that Nebraska and Colorado might eventually leave to more suitable conferences and that they were handing Texas all the power in the Big 12. The conference was doomed from the moment that the Big Ten seriously considered expansion. The schools being left out dug their own graves.

On the positive side I cannot wait for Iowa-Nebraska, Texas-USC, Oklahoma-Arizona State and so on. This should be great.
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and will it result in a true national champion and playoff system?

of course not.
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Yeah, with all the changes going on, none of it will impact the BCS structure in a major way at all. Sadly.
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you'd think they could go with something like "hey! we can have a 4 team playoff with the three mega conferences and a 4th slot for everyone else"

but, no... they won't. they make more money the way it's done. the only way it'll change is if they start losing money.
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Yeah, with all the changes going on, none of it will impact the BCS structure in a major way at all. Sadly.
Did all of this go down because you left BTN? That's awesome, man. That is fucking POWERJUICE.
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Did all of this go down because you left BTN? That's awesome, man. That is fucking POWERJUICE.
Pretty much. The only way I could be replaced was by bringing in a 12th school. I stay humble, though.
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On the positive side I cannot wait for Iowa-Nebraska, Texas-USC, Oklahoma-Arizona State and so on. This should be great.
You're not excited for OU and USC meeting in the Cheater Bowl?
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I wish Penn State was in a better conference.
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For my incumbent Pac 10 friends, here's a crash course in what to expect from your new Big XII buddies.

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and will it result in a true national champion and playoff system?

of course not.
If the four super-conferences get established (this is the first domino), there is talk of the top two from each hopping into an eight team playoff. Yeah, it's just talk at this point, but it's certainly a step in the right direction.
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I wish Penn State was in a better conference.
With a Big Ten Conference record of 81-47, PSU hasn't really "torn up" the Big Ten. Since they began Big Ten play in '93, PSU has won one outright conference championship and shared two.
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