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Old 03-24-2011, 10:10 PM   #406
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C'mon...you don't even foul a blindfolded Ben Wallace in that scenario.
You realize that getting a stop doesn't get you a win, right? Don't make me bust out the math.
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C'mon...you don't even foul a blindfolded Ben Wallace in that scenario.
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Never put your team down on purpose in a tie game.
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Never put your team down on purpose in a tie game.
Would you do it if the other team scored on 99% of their offensive possessions but hit only 1% of their free throws? If your rotation ran only 7-deep and everyone had 4 fouls?
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Would you do it if the other team scored on 99% of their offensive possessions but hit only 1% of their free throws? If your rotation ran only 7-deep and everyone had 4 fouls?
I think we've crossed from the ridiculous to the sublime with the hypotheticals.
But I will add that if my opponent somehow managed to score on 99% of its possessions, I wouldn't be in a tie game.

And if you have a 7 man rotation and everyone has 4 fouls, then you guarantee you just fouled out one of your guys...not smart coaching.
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I think we've crossed from the ridiculous to the sublime with the hypotheticals.
But I will add that if my opponent somehow managed to score on 99% of its possessions, I wouldn't be in a tie game.
Answer the question, please.
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Answer the question, please.
I do not foul in that ridiculous scenario.
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I do not foul in that ridiculous scenario.
You needn't read any further then.

To everyone else, fouling when the other team is 99% from the field and 1% from the free throw line is pretty obviously correct. My point is that it's not at all obvious where the break-even point is. It can't be known unless you do the calculations.

And before anybody else pops in with some sort of appeal-to-authority argument about how ridiculous it is, international coaches sometimes foul intentionally in tie games.
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I don't know. That Lamb kid has gotten better and better as the year has gone on.
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Would you do it if the other team scored on 99% of their offensive possessions but hit only 1% of their free throws? If your rotation ran only 7-deep and everyone had 4 fouls?
Fouling when tied is like going for it on 4th down from your own 22 yard line when the other side has peyton manning. I'm sure there's a brilliant football mind out there who thinks it's a good idea. Probably even a few stats to back it up. But it's still stupid.

As has already been said, it's a bullshit scenario because if a team shot 99% from the field they would have well into the mid 100s... we're talking 140 and above, and that's if they only made 2 point field goals.

So unless we were breaking out the rock and jock 25 point baskets, tree ain't a chance in hell that ridiculous scenario would ever happen.
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Fouling when tied is like going for it on 4th down from your own 22 yard line when the other side has peyton manning. I'm sure there's a brilliant football mind out there who thinks it's a good idea. Probably even a few stats to back it up. But it's still stupid.

As has already been said, it's a bullshit scenario because if a team shot 99% from the field they would have well into the mid 100s... we're talking 140 and above, and that's if they only made 2 point field goals.

So unless we were breaking out the rock and jock 25 point baskets, tree ain't a chance in hell that ridiculous scenario would ever happen.
As has been already said, that rhetorical dodge is completely irrelevant to the argument at hand.

If the other team is 35% to score on their possession and has a 50% FT shooter who you can foul immediately, your team is 90% to rebound a missed FT, 30% to score on the ensuing possession, doesn't have any 50% FT shooters (so the other team can't intentionally foul you back if they miss two) and 45% to win the overtime period, then fouling is actually correct. Tell me which of these percentages you think is unrealistic.
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