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Old 03-21-2011, 12:40 PM   #376
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if it were to happen it would be the catholic/non-football schools leading the rebellion... as those schools, with the exceptions of notre dame & marquette, are often at the bottom of the big east pile. notre dame of course tries to play plays football, but they're an independent and will never join a football conference. they'd have a distinct advantage because of the cash the football TV contract brings in... but i think the other catholic schools would be much happier only having to compete with one huge football money maker as opposed to 7.
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Then what happens to the schools that don't even play Big East football (i.e. Villanova)?
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Old 03-21-2011, 01:00 PM   #378
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all the non BCS football playing schools, which are also the catholic schools, would form one conference, the BCS schools would form another conference.

Non BCS/Catholic Schools
DePaul
Georgetown
Marquette
Notre Dame (independent football)
Providence
St. John's
Seton Hall
Villanova

BCS Conference
Cincinnati
UConn
Louisville
Pitt
Rutgers
South Florida
Syracuse
West Virginia


TCU is joining the Big East in 2012. They're a religious school, but they aren't catholic, and they play major BCS football, so they could join the BCS conference.
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How do you get the non-BCS schools to agree to that? I don't think that would work out very well for them.
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How do you get the non-BCS schools to agree to that? I don't think that would work out very well for them.
the #1 money making sport for those schools is basketball, and if you look at the list, half of the non BCS schools have been non-competitive ever since the big east merger. providence, st. john's and seton hall were founding members of the big east, and the conference was founded largely because of basketball.

a lot of the presidents of thsoe schools aren't happy that they're relegated to the bottom of the barrel in the conference, and it's extremely hard to climb the ladder, especially when you're competing against teams with much bigger athletic budgets, due to their status as BCS football teams.

every summer there's rumblings about a split. each time there's a tv contract up the rumblings get louder. hasn't happened yet, but i think eventually it will. it pretty much comes down to the non-football schools not wanting to pay out to keep up with the football schools, when all they really care about is basketball.
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bruce pearl's gonna be canned in, oh, an hour or two.
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Shannon what do you think of that 4-second call on Joseph in the dying seconds of Texas-Arizona? From every way I've played it it looks to me like he clearly calls timeout well before the 5th steamboat
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actually i was out at dinner at the time and missed the texas/arizona game... sometimes ya gotta do what ya gotta do
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bruce pearl's gonna be canned in, oh, an hour or two.
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KNOXVILLE, Tenn. -- Tennessee has fired Bruce Pearl after a season that saw the coach charged with unethical conduct for lying to NCAA investigators during a probe into recruiting, person with knowledge of the decision said.

The person spoke on condition of anonymity because the university has not announced the firing.

In six seasons, the 51-year-old Pearl led the Volunteers to their first No. 1 ranking and first NCAA tournament regional finals appearance, missing out on a trip to the 2010 Final Four by a single point.

Pearl acknowledged in a tearful press conference on Sept. 10 that he had given investigators false information when asked about a cookout at his home attended by high school juniors. The NCAA has since charged the Tennessee basketball and football programs with a dozen violations.
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actually i was out at dinner at the time and missed the texas/arizona game... sometimes ya gotta do what ya gotta do
I hear that..I actually thought there was a bigger robbery at the very end contact all over Johnson.
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My buddy at UT all but confirmed the Pearl firing to me when they lost on Friday.
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yea it was a poorly kept secret.
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From where I was sitting Texas got reamed by the officials late, almost a conscious decision to make things up to the Pac 10 for the way the screwed UDub earlier in the day.
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yea it was a poorly kept secret.
I still don't understand what Tennessee was hoping to accomplish by waiting like this instead of firing him immediately (not that they're the only ones to do this). What are they hoping for, that Pearl wins 4-5 tournament games so they have a reason to keep him? That's probably the worst possible outcome for them.
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I still don't understand what Tennessee was hoping to accomplish by waiting like this instead of firing him immediately (not that they're the only ones to do this). What are they hoping for, that Pearl wins 4-5 tournament games so they have a reason to keep him? That's probably the worst possible outcome for them.
I think they were hoping that they could skate by on self imposing penalties, and once they realized that wasn't going to happen they probably figured they would ride out the season.

Poorly handled situation all around, but not surprising considering Tennessee.
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