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Old 07-30-2008, 03:57 PM   #16
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yes, its how I feel RIGHT now!

What exactly do you feel like doing RIGHT now?
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Old 07-30-2008, 08:12 PM   #17
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Four Grammys for Album of the Year in the span of five years means he floated a lot of boats back in the day. And he's certainly a better writer/singer/musician than Michael Jackson.

If you're ever right about anything, it will be a cold day in hell.
Clown, all i meant was that I have never experienced any enjoyment in listening to his songs, they bore me (like Coldplay bore you), that is all. And I'm surprised you of all people would hold up the Grammys as a valid reflection on what the best music goin' around is.

You still clinging on to your bigoted view that music taste is all about fact rather than subjectivity?
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I didn't read the guy's "formula" in detail, but scanning the list, I'd expect to see the titles he listed. Maybe not in the same order though, and yes, maybe a few are missing.

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Old 07-30-2008, 08:59 PM   #19
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Clown, all i meant was that I have never experienced any enjoyment in listening to his songs, they bore me (like Coldplay bore you), that is all. And I'm surprised you of all people would hold up the Grammys as a valid reflection on what the best music goin' around is.

You still clinging on to your bigoted view that music taste is all about fact rather than subjectivity?
I would never point to a Grammy win as some kind of indicator. But 4? For Album of the Year? In 5 years? That means SOMETHING.

There is an element of subjectivity, but there's also consensus. Stevie Wonder is widely regarded as a brilliant singer and composer who was WAY ahead of his time musically (for example, the synth/looping stuff done by Townshend on Who's Next was something Stevie had already experimented with). He's a legend that really doesn't need someone like me to defend him, or Grammies to validate him.

That a pioneer of r&b (and pop, and funk) bores you says more about your limited taste than it does about any kind of relativism with regard to me not liking Coldplay, who are a bland imitation of better artists. Stevie Wonder is a true original.
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Have you ever seen Stevie Wonder's house?
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Old 07-30-2008, 10:27 PM   #21
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Have you ever seen Stevie Wonder's house?
You fucking asshole... that cracked me up.

Yeah... when a list that takes "staying power" and "popularity" into consideration and a guy like Stevie Wonder makes the list, who's to argue?
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Four Grammys for Album of the Year in the span of five years means he floated a lot of boats back in the day. And he's certainly a better writer/singer/musician than Michael Jackson.

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You're a jerk.
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That a pioneer of r&b (and pop, and funk) bores you says more about your limited taste than it does about any kind of relativism with regard to me not liking Coldplay, who are a bland imitation of better artists. Stevie Wonder is a true original.

Pioneers are innovators, and not necessarily the best-sounding - I might prefer what I've heard from those inspired by Wonder than Wonder himself. Mind you this whole argument is ridiculous seein' as I'm judging Wonder from his hits alone, but from a personal view, Superstition especially is just toxic to my ear, a song I've never enjoyed, but turned radios off because of it. Just personally....

Insult my music taste if that's how ya get yer kicks, but Wonder has never provided me with a sound to listen deeper into his discography, and that's not my fault, or his fault, or anyone's fault....
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I didn't read the guy's "formula" in detail, but scanning the list, I'd expect to see the titles he listed. Maybe not in the same order though, and yes, maybe a few are missing.

I wouldnt have predicted 4 Led Zep albums in there though

I do own that Stevie Wonder album and I enjoy it immensely
but really, I was surprised given the guy's formula that it was in the top 5
let alone #1

I think I can objectively state that his objective formula is balls
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sorry i've just wanted an opportunity to say it
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Well, I'm not one to argue with math.
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Guns 'N Roses, Van Halen, Nirvana...I'm sad for U2 and the Beatles being on here.
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