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Old 08-18-2011, 02:22 AM   #91
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All I'm saying is there's a reason Seinfeld and the Beatles are such sacred cows.

And re: the stupid swooncore joke, I'd take any of those albums over the garbage Shuttlecock have fed the public for the past ten years.
I heard NLOTH was pretty good.
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Old 08-18-2011, 02:46 AM   #92
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And re: the stupid swooncore joke, I'd take any of those albums over the garbage Shuttlecock have fed the public for the past ten years.
Sorry for being stupid, Deputy.
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Did you see em in 09 or this year dep? enjoy it?

ATYCLB > NLOTH > HTDAAB
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Old 08-18-2011, 08:33 AM   #94
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I heard NLOTH was pretty good.
I keep hearing that too.

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Sorry for being stupid, Deputy.
It's fine. My expectations of you are spectacularly low.

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Did you see em in 09 or this year dep? enjoy it?
2009, and I liked it well enough.
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please tell me they were going to a comic convention as their favorite twilight characters or something.
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I thought the guy on the far right's hair was just added through MS Paint. And I can't shake that thought either.
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It looks like that from where I'm sitting.
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Old 08-18-2011, 10:51 AM   #98
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BritPop, it's remembered primarily for the rise of and rivalry between Blur and Oasis, even though both bands approached music completely differently. The Verve get sucked in because Urban Hymns was popular in 1997. Travis get sucked in because they emerged in the late 90's, but they were most "happening" in '99, when The Man Who was released, so they are, by chronology alone, post-BritPop.

BritPop isn't even close to a genre, not in the same way Grunge, Nu-Metal or Dubstep are.. BritPop is simply and very loosely popular British music from the mid to late 90's. I find it impossible to define in any other way.
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what the hell is dubstep?
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BritPop, it's remembered primarily for the rise of and rivalry between Blur and Oasis, even though both bands approached music completely differently. The Verve get sucked in because Urban Hymns was popular in 1997. Travis get sucked in because they emerged in the late 90's, but they were most "happening" in '99, when The Man Who was released, so they are, by chronology alone, post-BritPop.

BritPop isn't even close to a genre, not in the same way Grunge, Nu-Metal or Dubstep are.. BritPop is simply and very loosely popular British music from the mid to late 90's. I find it impossible to define in any other way.
This is Britpop:

Oasis Roll With It - YouTube

Blur - Park Life - YouTube

Supergrass - Alright - YouTube

Lush - Ladykillers - YouTube

Pulp - Sorted out for E's and Whizz - YouTube

etc etc

Sure theres a lot of grey area and even some bands that move in and out, but I'd say Britpop had a definitive sound and tone; mostly upbeat, poppy, guitar driven songs that borrow heavily from the 60s British Invasion
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Pretty spot-on. And that's why I don't think The Verve fits, especially considering their first album.

Hell, Super Furry Animals fit the bill more, and they started around the same time.
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i don't know, didn't the verve kind of make their career off trying to sound like exile-era stones like oasis made a career off revolver/rubber soul beatles? that's a broader generalization than i think i'd like to make (and a little unfounded since i'm not overly familiar with much more outside of about 3 verve songs + a richard ashcroft solo album), and in and of itself sort of implies that the verve don't fit the britpop bill at all.


god i hate that blur song.

i still have no fucking clue what dubstep is.
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I really don't think Oasis sound very much like Revolver/Rubber Soul Beatles at all.
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I don't think The Verve sound anything like the Stones, even if they are paying royalties to them for one of their classical pieces. That's probably what you're thinking of.

Primal Scream loves the Stones though.
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I really don't think Oasis sound very much like Revolver/Rubber Soul Beatles at all.
I agree. The Gallaghers obviously worship Lennon, but their take on his music was so bastardized that they ended up becoming something else entirely. They were reaching for the ubiquity of The Beatles rather than the form and technique, I think. I say all this as a massive Oasis fan.

Reading through this thread, I cannot help but disagree with the idea that there will never be another band of U2's scope. Just because there are no contenders visible at the moment does not mean that one will not arise in the future. If we take U2's legacy as mass commercial appeal plus artistic relevance, whatever that means, then they had perhaps six or seven years in which they fulfilled both criteria simultaneously. I can see another band doing that at some point. Arcade Fire could do it right now, but Win thankfully does not see music as an evangelical mission.
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