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Old 08-16-2015, 07:50 AM   #436
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Unpopular opinion, building on an earlier remark about my interest in recent music: by and large, I'm just not interested in any music pre-1980s. Well, maybe "not interested" is going too far, in that I'll be curious about some stuff and play it once or twice, but it's been a long, long time since something prior to the rise of post-punk has engaged me enough to enter into regular rotation, let alone be established as a personal favourite. My RYM ratings are telling: only four decades enjoy an average above 3 stars, the current one and the three that precede it.
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Old 08-16-2015, 08:52 AM   #437
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IMO the distance you go back relates to your tastes and interest in discovering where your favorite genres of the present day originated from. It also has to do with what your parents played for you and how much you could relate to it. My parents had 60s pop of all genres playing and I still love that shit. Much of the music I listen to today has ties to 60s psychedelic pop and folk rock, so I love those old albums too.

However, my dad hates 50s rock and pop, so that never really stuck with me either. It sounds ancient and difficult to relate to.
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Old 08-16-2015, 10:12 AM   #438
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IMO the distance you go back relates to your tastes and interest in discovering where your favorite genres of the present day originated from. It also has to do with what your parents played for you and how much you could relate to it. My parents had 60s pop of all genres playing and I still love that shit. Much of the music I listen to today has ties to 60s psychedelic pop and folk rock, so I love those old albums too.

However, my dad hates 50s rock and pop, so that never really stuck with me either. It sounds ancient and difficult to relate to.
There's possibly something in that. However, my favourite band as a child was The Shadows, via my grandfather. I fucking loved them - still do. Yet they never really opened up the music of that era to me; I've listened to some of their contemporaries and enjoyed them (like The Ventures, Dick Dale, Link Wray), but never on the same level and never enough to explore very widely.

On the other hand, much of the other music I heard as a child was kind of predictive of my favourites and my "recentism". My primary exposure to music other than Shadows cassettes was to nineties radio, or more to the point stations that purported to play "best recent hits of the eighties and nineties", and the music video show/Australian TV institution Rage.
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Old 08-16-2015, 10:43 AM   #439
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Unpopular opinion: most of the Beatles' discography bores me, including Sgt. Pepper and the White Album.


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Old 08-16-2015, 11:09 AM   #440
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The Beatles wrote immaculate, aesthetically excellent tunes that inspire no real emotional response in me of any kind. It's just kinda there.
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And if you want to talk about emotionless music I'd like to talk about Pink Floyd. Even the emotional ones feel lifeless to me.


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Old 08-16-2015, 11:16 AM   #442
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Ok, it occurred to me that I exaggerated a little; Penny Lane is a lovely, lovely tune.
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The only person who's made any fucking sense in the last like 40 posts in this thread in LemonMelon.

Kiss my black ass if you don't think the Beatles are the best.
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Look, I'm not going to shit on anyone for having a different opinion, but I'll just say that I cannot understand how stuff like In My Life, I'm Only Sleeping, And Your Bird Can Sing, Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds, A Day In The Life, The Fool On The Hill, Penny Lane, Dear Prudence, Blackbird, While My Guitar Gently Weeps, Long Long Long, Hey Jude, I Want You, Here Comes The Sun, Because, the whole AR medley, Across The Universe, and The Long And Winding Road, just to name some, can evoke no emotion in people. Different strokes I guess.

Also, the thing about Floyd being lifeless...again, I don't understand. Gilmour is one of my top three favorite guitarists ever, and it's largely because of his mournful guitar tone, the way he makes his instrument come to life in a whirlpool of emotion when he plays. His playing takes me to another world.


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Old 08-16-2015, 01:23 PM   #445
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The only person who's made any fucking sense in the last like 40 posts in this thread in LemonMelon.

Kiss my black ass if you don't think the Beatles are the best.

What, I don't get credit for my pro-Beatles post?


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Old 08-16-2015, 01:40 PM   #446
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Elton John churned out a ton of fairly memorable melodies for a few years there too, and like him, I find myself seeing a bit of the savant about the Beatles' output. I mean, is hooks really all it's about? What are they there in service of?

This is another thing. Hooks not = melodies. They're not the same thing. A hook has to be catchy. A melody doesn't have to be catchy to be beautiful or pretty. A melody cuts deeper than a hook. To refer to many of the Beatles' melodies just as hooks is to trivialize them, imo.


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I just can't with this thread.


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I'm not reading through 35+ posts about whether the Beatles are whatever. I know they're the best, and that's all I care about.
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Old 08-16-2015, 03:37 PM   #449
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Basically it's some people who admit they don't even like older music saying that they're overrated/have no emotion.

And then Beatles fans (i.e., those with good taste) not being nearly harsh enough in response.
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I don't really see how the artistic, technical, and even philosophical accomplishments of The Beatles can be denied. Trying to do so (not that anyone really is here, but some posters do on occasion) is just contrarianism for the sake of it. But there absolutely is a difference between appreciation and enjoyment. I wouldn't challenge someone who doesn't necessarily enjoy or "get" The Beatles, even though personally I find the back half of their catalogue almost uniformly brilliant.

There's also a distinction between "favorite " and "best" that I think is often lost in these types of discussions. If you asked me my favorite band right now, in terms of a group I am most likely to reach for, it would probably be Beach House, but I would never claim they are the best or most influential band out there right now.
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