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Old 07-14-2011, 05:05 AM   #241
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There's not much "abstract noodling". It's got "tunes" in Idioteque and Optimistic. And the rest is just awesome. Mostly.

That said, I do think In Rainbows is their best, the best record of the decade, and one of the 10 best ever.
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Old 07-14-2011, 05:28 AM   #242
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I'm perfectly alright with someone disliking Kid A. I'm not alright with it being dismissed with such terms as "abstract noodling." It's very much "music," it very much has "songs." I've heard it far more times than I could possibly remember, and I can assure you that it was worth all the time I spent with it. Only a select few albums can draw you into its spell the way Kid A does, changing your mood, reflecting its lyrics with textures and hues that enhance every word, and generally being one of the most unique and engrossing listening experiences you can have with an album.

At the same time though, yes, it is challenging, and yes, it is slow in spots. Paul McGuinness probably hates it, but that's all the more reason to hear it.

Also, it's silly to think that Radiohead was "doing a Zooropa" as if that particular record precipitated Kid A somehow. Boards of Canada, Massive Attack, Aphex Twin, Stars of the Lid, etc. probably had far more to do with the creation of that record than anything U2 has done.
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Old 07-14-2011, 05:35 AM   #243
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Well, hey, here's an article right here:

Kid A - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There's Aphex Twin right there. Doesn't surprise me to see Neu! and Miles on there either. While Zooropa and Passengers were compared to Kid A upon its release, they aren't explicit influences.

Sorry to harp on about this; it just really bugs me when U2 is blamed/thanked for every occurrence in the world of music that followed Boy.
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Old 07-14-2011, 05:51 AM   #244
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Sorry to harp on about this; it just really bugs me when U2 is blamed/thanked for every occurrence in the world of music that followed Boy.
Don't forget every similar thing that happened before Boy.
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Old 07-14-2011, 05:57 AM   #245
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Old 07-14-2011, 06:45 AM   #246
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Perhaps unpopular, perhaps not: Tears For Fears were one of the great 80s groups to sell any records and were easily one of the best new wave bands. Their albums had cohesion uncommon for the era, the lyrics were strong, and the hooks were ridiculous. Head Over Heels is one of my all-time favorite songs, and their first three albums were all good. I don't actively mind what follows, but it's nothing special. Elemental is too long and dour.
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I know four or five songs and like them all bar Shout.
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Old 07-14-2011, 08:42 AM   #248
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Get your hands on The Hurting now.

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Old 07-14-2011, 10:12 AM   #249
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What she said.
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Old 07-14-2011, 10:44 AM   #250
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Oh, OK then...
I often think that Kid A is being rated at the best album evah!/of the 2000s/of Radiohead. And I think that it is far less interesting as its reputation suggests, being more self-indulgent. OK, so Radiohead decides to do a Zooropa/Original Soundtracks 1 and even skip the tunes for some abstract noodling. And suddenly it is being heralded as the
most awesome thing ever done.
I think Kid A is falling far short from, say, The Bends, OK Computer or In Rainbows. There are some interesting sounds on it and it's certainly not a bad record. Just not the masterpiece so many are claiming it is.

I was gonna come back and explain my opinion on Kid A, but Popmartijn pretty much described my feelings perfectly.
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What the hell is Pop On The Box anyway?

It's what Lance's Mom told him she was doing every night.

Confusingly for him, "Pop" seemed to be a different person each time.
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Perhaps unpopular, perhaps not: Tears For Fears were one of the great 80s groups to sell any records and were easily one of the best new wave bands. Their albums had cohesion uncommon for the era, the lyrics were strong, and the hooks were ridiculous. Head Over Heels is one of my all-time favorite songs, and their first three albums were all good. I don't actively mind what follows, but it's nothing special. Elemental is too long and dour.
I wouldn't say this is unpopular at all. Great band.
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Vera is in my top five for The Wall.
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Speaking of which, have you decided yet if you will go? I keep pondering the idea.
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Old 08-16-2011, 08:37 PM   #255
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Definitely not going, going to Thailand around that time. I don't think there's any reasonably priced tickets left anyway. Shit it'd be a great show though
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