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Old 02-17-2015, 08:28 PM   #31
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I'll do that, but by choosing to listen to positive music instead of negative I am hardly on a high horse. I mean seriously, we are only discussing music not life style choices, politics or the ethics of child rearing
Except, you're judging people based on the music they listen to. So yeah, I'd say you're on a high horse.
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I was not aware all jazz and soul music was happy and positive! How silly of me
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I was wondering how this thread made it to two pages.
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Night on Bald Mountain, the Carmina Burana, Mozart's Requiem... I don't know. If classical music as a genre is all about the betterment of society, then I'll be a suck egg mule.

Pretty dangerous to make sweeping generalizations about any genre, including classical.
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I was not aware all jazz and soul music was happy and positive! How silly of me
Let me show you an example:

Here is the iconic album "What's Going On" featuring Marvin Gaye making a statement about racial segregation and mistreatment. The message is positive because it is constructively asking a question and seeking conversation vs conflict. The music itself is beautiful and inspiring with a wonderful vocal by a truly talented man.



Same ideas being presented but the delivery is vastly different. Therefore my statement of positive and enlightening music still stands.
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Let me show you an example:

Here is the iconic album "What's Going On" featuring Marvin Gaye making a statement about racial segregation and mistreatment. The message is positive because it is constructively asking a question and seeking conversation vs conflict. The music itself is beautiful and inspiring with a wonderful vocal by a truly talented man.



Same ideas being presented but the delivery is vastly different. Therefore my statement of positive and enlightening music still stands.
How familiar are you with life in Compton, Long Beach, South Central? I grew up sheltered in rural California. This album exposed me to an experience that was far outside of my reality. I still can't imagine growing up in an area where I may have been shot on my way to school. I DON'T know what it's like to have people mistrust me because of the color of my skin. This kind of music is SUPPPOSED to provoke. Everything isn't puppies and rainbows.
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Night on Bald Mountain, the Carmina Burana, Mozart's Requiem... I don't know. If classical music as a genre is all about the betterment of society, then I'll be a suck egg mule.

Pretty dangerous to make sweeping generalizations about any genre, including classical.
It's the tone of the music that is a betterment to society vs overtly angry music. If you're a pregnant mother you would never play Tupac through a pair of headphones for your baby but everyone knows that classical can have benefits to unborn children as well as educational purposes. This is the point I was making. BTW those are excellent classical pieces you mentioned
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could you possibly be any more condescending?
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How familiar are you with life in Compton, Long Beach, South Central? I grew up sheltered in rural California. This album exposed me to an experience that was far outside of my reality. I still can't imagine growing up in an area where I may have been shot on my way to school. I DON'T know what it's like to have people mistrust me because of the color of my skin. This kind of music is SUPPPOSED to provoke. Everything isn't puppies and rainbows

Here is an idea about Compton and NWA as an example of my point.

Since life in Compton is not the best do you really need to have your entertainment reminding you how bad things are. All NWA are managing to do is make you feel even more pissed off about things which can easily lead to violent behavior if a person is already predisposed to this kind of thing.

How is that going to help the problems that Compton is going through?
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Just. Stop. You don't have a fucking clue. My god.
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I've been in gangs since I was 7 years old. I just thought I'd throw that fact out there.


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Just. Stop. You don't have a fucking clue. My god.
Yes you know it all Mr. Australian who has never lived in Southern California or NYC either. I believe the very fact your turning to 4 letter words so easily when we are only discussing music is a sign that you have probably listened to a little too much profanity in your preferred music.

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It's the tone of the music that is a betterment to society vs overtly angry music. If you're a pregnant mother you would never play Tupac through a pair of headphones for your baby but everyone knows that classical can have benefits to unborn children as well as educational purposes. This is the point I was making. BTW those are excellent classical pieces you mentioned

I'm quite sure you don't have the first clue about the pieces I mentioned. Night on Bald Mountain is one disturbed piece of music. It was inspired by a witches' Sabbath (with all due respect to witches). The Carmina Burana is filled with references to how the goddess Fortune abuses the human race, ending with the line (in Latin) "Weep, all of you, with me." The In Taberna section alone, which suggests we all go drink ourselves into oblivion to forget the human condition, easily mirrors the suggestions of many a hip hop song. And Mozart's Requiem tells us of the horrors of judgment day for sinners everywhere. No way am I playing any of those for an unborn child. But Dear Mama by Tupac? That's more a newborn's speed.

You may want to get a clearer understanding of what you're listening to before these songs drag you down into the dregs of society with the rest of us.


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