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Old 02-17-2010, 07:48 PM   #46
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MPP Vampire Weekend, to me, is the sound of hipsters hipstering
There you go.

And I don't even care how embarrassing a band's audience is (well, OK, there's always Tool). I'll just take any opportunity I can to bash those preppy fucks.
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Old 02-17-2010, 07:50 PM   #47
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Vampire Weekend is the sound tweeny MTV kids think "hipsters" dig. They think liking VW will give them some sort of "indie" cred, which in and of itself is a label true music fans scoff at.

It's undeniable that most of my favorite music adheres to the "indie" aesthetic (keep in mind its an aesthetic, not a genre), but that hardly makes me a hipster. You guys are the same way. I don't think P4K disciples listening to something should affect your perception of a band negatively.
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Old 02-17-2010, 07:51 PM   #48
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That's damning. Do we not have hipsters at Interference?
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Old 02-17-2010, 07:57 PM   #49
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To figure that out, we need to establish what exactly a "hipster" is in the grand scheme of things. Am I one just because I own several American Apparel v-necks, collect vinyl, read Pitchfork daily, and drink PBR? I don't believe so. But plenty of people would call me that. The difference is that I don't do those things in hopes of cultivating an image. True hipsters, the kind people seem to be complaining about, are those who only are into certain things so people will recognize them as such.
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It's hip to be square guys.

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Old 02-17-2010, 08:05 PM   #51
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To figure that out, we need to establish what exactly a "hipster" is in the grand scheme of things. Am I one just because I own several American Apparel v-necks, collect vinyl, read Pitchfork daily, and drink PBR? I don't believe so. But plenty of people would call me that. The difference is that I don't do those things in hopes of cultivating an image. True hipsters, the kind people seem to be complaining about, are those who only are into certain things so people will recognize them as such.
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That's interesting. It's certainly an open door to discussion between diehards, and when I say diehards, I don't mean fans of a specific genre, but followers of music as a whole. The kind of people who dedicate hours to researching genres they may have never heard before, as well as deepening their knowledge with familiar genres; discovering more than just the usual representatives. It makes two individuals from potentially very different backgrounds colleagues, in a way. And that's why it bothers me that students of the medium are so easily labeled as hipsters, because they seek to discover music that outlasts trends; an inherently unhip way to listen to music.

That sounded pretentious as fuck, I realize, but I do feel a kinship with those who really put effort into discovering new sounds, even if their tastes couldn't be further from mine. Hey, even if they are, odds are strong that we will have at least a handful of albums in common, and that's enough to sustain one of those hours-long discussions Scumbo is talking about.
In short, I'm joking around right now. Vampire Weekend, to me, is exactly the kind of music that has caused such a backlash against indie rock and hipster culture as a whole, and that it was made in the same laboratory wherein Nick And Nora's Infinite Playlist was forged. But as far as the definition of "hipster" goes, you're on the money.
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Old 02-17-2010, 08:16 PM   #52
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The only people I usually see from my perspective who bitch about Vampire Weekend are actual hipsters, so I'm not so sure about that, but whateva. Just seems like yet another of the countless pop bands out there who actually end up "making it', and then get rejected by the majority of their original fan base for acquiring fans who don't even know what "indie" is.
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Old 02-17-2010, 08:44 PM   #53
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Well, I suppose I can truly only speak for myself anyway. I've hated them from the very first half-assed vocal harmony. They didn't have to become popular for me to shun them. However, I realize this is quickly turning into a Mikal/THE GRIZ! scenario, so I'll back off before I become insufferable.

To bring this full circle, image couldn't matter less to me. Perhaps it's because I dress myself in the dark, but whatevs. Look at Los Camp; their band name, band members' names, attitude and sound all reek of douchebaggery, yet their new album is a favorite of mine. Because of this, I've backed off from a lot of the bashing I had engaged in previously. If a group of albino Mormons (or, more far-fetched, Vampire Weekend) could make a great album, I wouldn't mock them too harshly. This is an impossible scenario, of course, but play along.
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Old 02-17-2010, 09:09 PM   #54
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To be fair, I was never particularly high on Vampire Weekend. There were a few songs on the debut I liked and had fun listening to for a time, but the novelty wore off quickly and Contra sucked even worse than the second half of the self titled. In any case, I'd be lying if I said I didn't still get some enjoyment out of a couple of their tunes.

My problem with them now lies in the fact that they're getting popularity and acclaim that I feel is undeserved. Take Beach House, for example. The acclaim is there, but you'll never seen them sell out Stubb's in a couple hours. There are countless other bands I'd like to see "make it."

And it's worth mentioning the fact that "California English" is one of the worst songs I've ever heard, and one of the songs on that album even managed to make poor MIA sound like shit.


Now let's get back on track.
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I think thats slowly becoming my favourite song on the album
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LeMeL, you seem to have more issues with Mormons than even I do.

Imps, I wouldn't sweat the popularity. It's what dumb pop is supposed to do, get dumb fans.

I too likie that song.

I still don't understand all the hate for Used To Be, it doesn't seem out of place or bother me at all. I like it.
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Old 02-17-2010, 11:19 PM   #57
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Hey now, some of my best friends are Morman.

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So you say, hate-mongerer. So you say.
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To figure that out, we need to establish what exactly a "hipster" is in the grand scheme of things. Am I one just because I own several American Apparel v-necks, collect vinyl, read Pitchfork daily, and drink PBR? I don't believe so. But plenty of people would call me that. The difference is that I don't do those things in hopes of cultivating an image. True hipsters, the kind people seem to be complaining about, are those who only are into certain things so people will recognize them as such.
I'm even less hipster-looking. If you saw me walking around, you'd never guess I had any taste in music. I wear plain clothing and these days I sport a buzzcut.

I know a true hipster up here. He wears a lot of flannel, strange pants, and Ben Gibbard glasses.

He's a good guy.
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I have never really understood the popularity of Vampire Weekend myself but let me just throw this out there for fun...I know a 66 year old man who absolutely loves them. He's a cool 66, always been into music and tries to keep up, but I found it kind of bizarre that out of all the newer bands, he latched on to them. And The Killers. I gave him a copy of In Rainbows when it came out and that got absolutely no response whatsoever.
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