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Old 10-21-2011, 08:16 PM   #31
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Got tix for the first night. Damn right we're going! We are changing our trip to June instead so I can die happy.
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Old 10-21-2011, 10:01 PM   #32
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It's kind of a myth that The Stone Roses were generally bad live. They were quite bad about 40% of the time (mainly due to Brown's vocals, but also some shambolic instrumental work at times), but were average about 40% of the time, and were utterly brilliant about 20% of the time. They key, then, is listening to shows that were brilliant, not bad. Unfortunately, most of the more famous bootlegged shows feature them at their worst (Alexandra Palace, Spike Island, European Tour '95, etc.).

If anyone is interested in downloading good Stone Roses shows, let me know...
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Old 10-22-2011, 06:00 AM   #33
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I have listened to about a dozen Stone Roses bootlegs from all eras. The only one where Ian does not sound like shit and where the whole thing actually sounds good was the famous Glasgow Green gig, average sound notwithstanding.

Out of all of my favourite bands, they are by far the shittiest live, due to reasons already mentioned. I do have hopes for the reunion gigs because there were some bands (Faith No More as one example) that were playing much better after they've reunited. So I'll keep my thumbs crossed.
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Old 10-22-2011, 10:33 AM   #34
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Saw Ian Brown play a couple years ago at Newcastle. Never again.
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Old 10-22-2011, 05:24 PM   #35
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Great news. It's amazing the level of interest the Stone Roses are generating considering the debut album had sold a mere 800k units a decade after its release.
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Old 10-22-2011, 06:50 PM   #36
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Saw Ian Brown play a couple years ago at Newcastle. Never again.
Yes, my summation of his solo career is as follows:
Recordings = Great
Live = Unbelievably awful

If you can believe it, there are followers of Brown who claim that his solo gigs are fantastic, and that he always sounds good. There are likewise Bob Dylan fans who think he sings better now than he did in 1965 (I think Bono said this too).

Djerdap: well, I did say that 40% of Stone Roses' shows were terrible -- that's a pretty high percentage. But I maintain that a fair percentage of them are fantastic. By the way, do you think you could be a wee bit more dismissive in your posts?


I have the sense that Reni (drummer) and Brown (singer) have long had issues with each other. It's Ian Brown who effectively fired Reni from the Roses back in March 1995 after a major argument, and Reni did Roses' backing vocals and apparently complained (too) loudly that he was a better singer than Brown. My feeling is that Reni will elevate Ian's performance level by pushing his buttons again. We shall see.
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Old 10-22-2011, 07:09 PM   #37
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But I maintain that a fair percentage of them are fantastic. By the way, do you think you could be a wee bit more dismissive in your posts?
And these fantastic shows are...? Not to be dismissive or anything.
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Old 10-22-2011, 08:35 PM   #38
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Reni is rock's greatest living drummer as far as I am concerned.

Larry Mullen is a very good drummer, Phil Collins is excellent.

Reni is on a different level.
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You've clearly never heard of Bryan Devendorf.
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Old 10-23-2011, 12:11 AM   #40
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And these fantastic shows are...? Not to be dismissive or anything.
Not dismissive, but you are being sarcastic. And I said that if anyone wanted them, I'd post... So far, no one asked.


Brunel University, Uxbridge (April 1989): MEGAUPLOAD - The leading online storage and file delivery service

Shrewsbury Park Lane (soundcheck + gig, April 1989): 1989.05.25 Shrewsbury Park Lane (plus Soundcheck).zip

Sheffield University (May 1989): http://rapidshare.com/files/409362939/s ... ni_7.5.zip

Here's a unique boot of the Roses rehearsing before a gig on June 8th, 1989 in Lancaster: MEGAUPLOAD - The leading online storage and file delivery service

Cologne, Germany (Oct.1989): Etched In Stone - Luxor Club Germany 4 -10-89.zip

Copenhagen (May 1990): http://rapidshare.com/files/101648707/T ... 5.1990.rar

You already have Glasgow Green (June 1990), but for those who don't, it really should be heard: MEGAUPLOAD - The leading online storage and file delivery service

"In The Studio Vol. 1" (1993-1994 studio demos, rehearsals): in the studio vol 1.rar

San Francisco Fillmore, May 1995: MEGAUPLOAD - The leading online storage and file delivery service

Manchester Apollo (Dec. 22, 1995): MEGAUPLOAD - The leading online storage and file delivery service

Sheffield Arena (Dec. 1995): MEGAUPLOAD - The leading online storage and file delivery service



These are all stellar performances, and Brown's voice is good to excellent at all. The audio quality, however, is not good for most of these shows, with Lancaster, Cologne, Copenhagen, Glasgow, and of course "In The Studio" being the best.

Personally, I think the first one at Brunel University is the best performance I've heard in my life from a 3-piece band plus singer combo!

(Note that the last 3 shows, all in 1995, do not feature Reni on drums.)



NOTE: Nuts! I just realized that the frickin' Rapidshare links don't work... let me try to fix those...
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Old 10-23-2011, 12:33 AM   #41
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Here's that Sheffield University (May 1989) show: MEGAUPLOAD - The leading online storage and file delivery service

(Fantastic vocals by Brown at this one...)

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On a personal note, I met John Squire one night in Montreal in 1997. I got to sit with him for an hour or so and have a beer. Sweet, if quiet, guy!
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On a personal note, I met John Squire one night in Montreal in 1997. I got to sit with him for an hour or so and have a beer. Sweet, if quiet, guy!
Lucky Numbers!

Squire has always struck me as very quiet and reserved.
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Given that this is a U2 forum, interesting that Reni is very complimentary of U2 and Larry Mullen, but Ian Brown still hates them.

The Stone Roses Press Conference - Part 1 - YouTube

Actually interesting how talkative and confident Reni comes across considering his low profile since the Roses broke up.
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Old 10-23-2011, 07:06 PM   #45
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Yes, Reni has always been on a different 'taste'-level from the others. Apparently, his favorite band is Deep Purple, and his favorite record in the 80s was "Jump" by Van Halen...
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