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Old 04-01-2009, 10:46 PM   #121
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Hey, if you're about moles digging in holes and monkeys swinging from trees, that's your thing, man.
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Old 04-01-2009, 11:03 PM   #122
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Good: Boy, No Line, Achtung, Unforgettable Fire
Above Average: October, War

Failed Experiments: RAH, Zooropa, Pop
Wow, I had no idea your taste was this bad. I love how there's no level between "good" and "fucking awesome".
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Old 04-01-2009, 11:09 PM   #123
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Wow, I had no idea your taste was this bad. I love how there's no level between "good" and "fucking awesome".
With U2's studio work? Joshua Tree is the only album they pulled off really well.

U2's my favorite band because they're the best live act ever, not because of their studio material. Their studio stuff is great, no question, but there's definite flaws.
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Old 04-01-2009, 11:11 PM   #124
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I listened to Achtung in its entirety for the first time in ages the other day... any sort of production issues aside, there's no denying it's a fantastic album.

Dear God, even its weakest tracks ("So Cruel" and "Tryin' to Throw...") are still solid songs in their own right.

I'm with you on War and Rattle and Hum not being the bee's knees overall, but still, they've got some quality tracks between the both of them, and October, Pop, and Zooropa are way better than above average or failures, respectively.

Who can make these albums better? You?! You, Lt. Weinberg?!
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Old 04-01-2009, 11:19 PM   #125
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Their studio stuff is great, no question, but there's definite flaws.
If it's so great, why classify so many as merely "good" or "failed experiments", even if they may be flawed? Your semantics suck.
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I listened to Achtung in its entirety for the first time in ages the other day... any sort of production issues aside, there's no denying it's a fantastic album.

Dear God, even its weakest tracks ("So Cruel" and "Tryin' to Throw...") are still solid songs in their own right.

I'm with you on War and Rattle and Hum not being the bee's knees overall, but still, they've got some quality tracks between the both of them, and October, Pop, and Zooropa are way better than above average or failures, respectively.

Who can make these albums better? You?! You, Lt. Weinberg?!
I think ATYCLB is the only album I actually dislike.

Every song on Achtung is good, but only a couple of them sound good. Zoo Station, EBTTRT, UTEOTW, The Fly, TTTYAATW, Ultraviolet, and Love Is Blindness all suffer. One and Mysterious Ways are missing crucial parts that were only added later in the live setting. Only Wild Horses, So Cruel, and Acrobat are definitive cuts.

Rattle and Hum would have been fantastic as a short album with all the studio tracks.

October's first seven tracks are great, and then it falls apart.

Bono says a lot of dumb things about U2's material, but calling Pop "the most expensive demo tape ever" was very accurate.

Zooropa ... meh. I'd say I enjoy a third, think another third worked well live, and could do without the rest.
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Old 04-01-2009, 11:21 PM   #127
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If it's so great, why classify so many as merely "good" or "failed experiments", even if they may be flawed? Your semantics suck.
I'm going to re-do this for you in a moment.

EDIT: Never mind. Too much effort. I'll sum up - U2's great, they just make peculiar studio decisions. Too many good B-sides, a lot done way better in other forms (live, usually), weird track orders.
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Old 04-01-2009, 11:29 PM   #128
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I think ATYCLB is the only album I actually dislike.

Every song on Achtung is good, but only a couple of them sound good. Zoo Station, EBTTRT, UTEOTW, The Fly, TTTYAATW, Ultraviolet, and Love Is Blindness all suffer. One and Mysterious Ways are missing crucial parts that were only added later in the live setting. Only Wild Horses, So Cruel, and Acrobat are definitive cuts.

Rattle and Hum would have been fantastic as a short album with all the studio tracks.

October's first seven tracks are great, and then it falls apart.

Bono says a lot of dumb things about U2's material, but calling Pop "the most expensive demo tape ever" was very accurate.

Zooropa ... meh. I'd say I enjoy a third, think another third worked well live, and could do without the rest.
I've grown to like ATYCLB over time, while the exact opposite happened for Bomb... currently my least favorite album of theirs.

Fair enough on the other albums, but I really do have to disagree with you on Achtung. Those songs all do excel live, but I don't think they should hinder the enjoyment of their studio versions... personal preference, I guess. "Zoo," "Even Better...," and "The Fly" are all pitch-perfect as far as I'm concerned, while the mixing and/or volume on the other tracks seem a bit misplaced at times. I wonder how much your opinion will change when the remaster comes out, if it changes at all.
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Zoo and Even Better's big flaw is that half of Edge's guitar playing is completely inaudible. Achtung is far and away Edge's best album ... and it's buried in the mix.

The Fly's big problem is that they overdubbed too many guitar parts in the last third of the song.
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Oh how the internet can be so funny and pathetic at times

If this was real life things would be much different..

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I consider Bomb by far U2's most average album. It goes like this:

Fucking Awesome: Joshua Tree
Good: Boy, No Line, Achtung, Unforgettable Fire
Above Average: October, War
Average: Bomb
Failed Experiments: RAH, Zooropa, Pop
Shitty: ATYCLB
I understand failed experiments there, but does that mean you consider those three all below average albums? 'Cos if so... :cuckoo:

I must be the only one who can't hear these 'production flaws' in Achtung and Pop...
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I must be the only one who can't hear these 'production flaws' in Achtung and Pop...
You're not the only one, but they're clearly there. You're just a bigger person that the Peef and enjoy the album regardless.
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The Libertines themselves were spawned by The Strokes, though, so it's them you should really blame for all that.

But don't. Because I fucking love The Strokes.
I don't love The Strokes but I can't deny that Is This It is a bloody fantastic debut. So I'm willing to let them off the hook,
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I consider Bomb by far U2's most average album. It goes like this:

Fucking Awesome: Joshua Tree
Good: Boy, No Line, Achtung, Unforgettable Fire
Above Average: October, War
Average: Bomb
Failed Experiments: RAH, Zooropa, Pop
Shitty: ATYCLB
what the hell is this supposed to be? Some sort of late attempt at an April Fools?
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You know, I never had anything against the production in AB. If anything, I think the murkiness is pretty cool and ties in with the general subject matter of the album pretty swell, assuming that the album is about swamps. I guess parts could do with some cleaning up, but I think that would ruin some of the tracks that I like.

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