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Old 03-31-2009, 07:14 PM   #46
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Definitely. I think the next year was the one with the Trail of Dead tune. MVP was the last great baseball game.
Totally agree. In fact, I'd argue it was the only great baseball video game. A two year run did not do it justice.
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Clearly, Tommy Lasorda Baseball was before your time.
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I really don't hear how The Cure's self-titled album is worse than Japanese Whispers, The Top, or Wild Mood Swings personally. Everyone on this forum loved the self-titled album when it came out, it was on numerous people's year end lists. It's still super weird to now see people acting like it's one of the worst things they've ever done. To each their own.
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I've always maintained that if Coldplay switched singers with Keane, I would like the former so much more.

That, and I have a soft spot for Is It Any Wonder. So yeah, they're bland, but just above the hurdle of mediocrity IMO.
I was just talking to The Lady Friend about this the other day.

"Is It Any Wonder?" apes so heavily from '90s U2 that it's almost as awesome as it is pathetic.

The chubby lead singer is like Win Butler's more earnest, but kind of uglier brother.
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I really don't hear how the self-titled album is worse than Japanese Whispers, The Top, or Wild Mood Swings personally. Everyone on this forum loved the self-titled album when it came out, it was on numerous people's year end lists. It's still super weird to now see people acting like it's one of the worst things they've ever done. To each their own.
The same thing happened to HTDAAB. Some albums just age poorly.

Of course, I don't have much to add on this topic, as I have yet to hear the self-titled, largely because of said unfortunate aging and corresponding criticisms. I've only heard Seventeen Seconds, The Head On The Door, Disintegration, and Bloodflowers.
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I'm the same way for "Bedshaped," for one reason or another.
Here's one reason: because it's fucking heartbreakingly beautiful.

That's why.
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I really don't hear how The Cure's self-titled album is worse than Japanese Whispers, The Top, or Wild Mood Swings personally. Everyone on this forum loved the self-titled album when it came out, it was on numerous people's year end lists. It's still super weird to now see people acting like it's one of the worst things they've ever done. To each their own.
I liked "Labyrinth" and "Anniversary." That's all I can remember.
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The same thing happened to HTDAAB. Some albums just age poorly.
Good point.

I admittedly don't like most of the "poppy" songs on it as much as I did when it came out, but 'Lost' is straight up one of the best things they've done since the '80's. I'd dare say it's one of my favorite Cure songs. Labyrinth was pretty damn great too. Maybe I still partially lean towards it as it was the "new album" when I finally saw them live for the first time (Curiosa Festival). It was a huge concert for me (Mogwai, Cursive, The Rapture, Interpol, Cooper Temple Clause) and then finished off by seeing one of my all time favorites live for the first time.
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I was just talking to The Lady Friend about this the other day.

"Is It Any Wonder?" apes so heavily from '90s U2 that it's almost as awesome as it is pathetic.

The chubby lead singer is like Win Butler's more earnest, but kind of uglier brother.
I had never heard that song, and after hearing that I decided to look it up.

It sounds like a mish-mash of about five tracks on Achtung Baby. You could not have pegged that better. I immediately thought of EBTTRT.
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I had never heard that song, and after hearing that I decided to look it up.

It sounds like a mish-mash of about five tracks on Achtung Baby. You could not have pegged that better. I immediately thought of EBTTRT.
Even Better Than the Real Thing meets Zoo Station, mostly. You can almost sing the latter track over the whole thing.
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A timelessly, yet so wonderfully average album from the most breathtakingly average band. God, I love 'em, and what a comeback after 10 years this album was...




Even the tracklisting delightfully reeks of average.

"Learning the Hard Way"
"Come on Hard"
"Someday Soon"
"Heart Shaped Locket"
"End of the World"
"Long Time Gone"
"Super Girl"
"Let's Play Two"
"Curious Thing"
"Jet Black Sunrise"
"Fool for the Taking"
"California Sun"
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I had never heard that song, and after hearing that I decided to look it up.

It sounds like a mish-mash of about five tracks on Achtung Baby. You could not have pegged that better. I immediately thought of EBTTRT.
YouTube - Is It Any Wonder? - Keane (Live Rock Werchter 07)

Reminds me of a hobbit doing U2 karaoke at a SoCal gathering.
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I used "Follow You Down" for a video project a week or so ago, and it worked pretty well. Everyone asked about what band it was, then looked it up. They hated every other track they heard from them.

Glad I'm not alone.
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Reminds me of a hobbit doing U2 karaoke at a SoCal gathering.
I saw them open for U2..I think at the NYC Vertigo show...I found myself being really irritated by him. The way he walks around the stage and strikes the 'appropriate' cliche rockstar pose (clench fist, point out to audience, swoosh non mic arm infront of body like a backstreet boy, etc) before moving on to the next is incredibly annoying. Worst frontman ever
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I saw them open for U2..I think at the NYC Vertigo show...I found myself being really irritated by him. The way he walks around the stage and strikes the 'appropriate' cliche rockstar pose (clench fist, point out to audience, swoosh non mic arm infront of body like a backstreet boy) before moving on to the next is incredibly annoying. Worst frontman ever
So my karaoke singer comparison was apt?
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