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Old 06-19-2011, 09:32 PM   #31
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Thoroughly enjoyed In a Silent Way. Not what I was expecting, in that both halves are quite energetic at times. Really loved the interplay between the horns and the light drumming, the guitar, the bass. I think I'm really gonna enjoy discovering more jazz.
Glad you liked it! The title definitely is a bit of a misnomer, but you can really hear the foundations of ambient music in that album. Eno has said that it was a major inspiration to him. Try Miles in the Sky if you can - that one's a favorite of mine.

I also listened to Aja today, but I think that I need a few more spins to evaluate it properly. It's certainly a unique-sounding album. Wayne shines, as expected.
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It's weird, in my "bible", 1001 Albums To Hear Before You Cease To Be, the reviewer says "empty silences speak as loudly as the music", "rarely has an album title been so apt", "oceans of silence", so I was expecting pretty much all ambience.

And the other weird thing is... that I am DEFINITELY the only person among my friends listening to jazz. They're probably all downloading the latest podcast from one of the drug-infested Melbourne clubs, and here I am playing Miles Davis. And I feel that that's pretty cool, doesn't bother me at all.
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Old 06-19-2011, 09:53 PM   #33
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Last question. I promise. For now. You all know how I am, I find it hard to shut up sometimes.

Is Joe Zawinul, who played with many of these cats, the man behind the title "Zawinul/Lava" from Another Green World?
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And the other weird thing is... that I am DEFINITELY the only person among my friends listening to jazz. They're probably all downloading the latest podcast from one of the drug-infested Melbourne clubs, and here I am playing Miles Davis. And I feel that that's pretty cool, doesn't bother me at all.
This made me happy to read.

Good on you.
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Old 06-19-2011, 10:17 PM   #35
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Is Joe Zawinul, who played with many of these cats, the man behind the title "Zawinul/Lava" from Another Green World?
Yeah, that track is a tribute to Zawinul. The thing that I love about In a Silent Way, and many other Miles albums, is the way that they alternate so fluidly between tempos and moods. Some parts are spacious and minimal, while others are variegated and surging. He was a master of forging atmosphere.
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YouTube - ‪Jazz Odyssey‬‏
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Saxophone Colossus by Sonny Rollins is a really great record. I was expecting it to be primarily an exercise in saxophone-related virtuosity, but the band interplay is actually incredible. Max Roach's drumming is my favorite part of the album.
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Old 06-20-2011, 02:29 PM   #38
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Saxophone Colossus by Sonny Rollins is a really great record. I was expecting it to be primarily an exercise in saxophone-related virtuosity, but the band interplay is actually incredible. Max Roach's drumming is my favorite part of the album.
Oh yeah - that's one of the all-time classics. Sonny was/is a great bandleader.
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Old 06-21-2011, 07:57 PM   #39
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I just found a great deal today at Permanent Records - thanks, Shouter - on The Inflated Tear by (Rahsaan) Roland Kirk. This thing is a masterpiece. It's got the chaotic energy of Mingus and the virtuosity of Coltrane, all mixed with some eccentric arrangements.
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I have never even heard of that. Hell yeah.
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A jazz thread, yay!

In college, even amongst some of my music classmates I got the feeling that people thought I only listened to jazz as some sort of hipster musician status symbol. Silly cynics, I've been into jazz as far back as I have memories thanks to my grandfather. Though he had virtuosic talent I'll never have, I'm much more of a composer than a performer.
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Just for fun, Iron Yuppie's ten best jazz albums:

1. Miles Davis: Kind of Blue. The choice may seem cliched, but after hearing over three-hundred jazz albums, this one still stands atop the pedestal in terms of musicianship, mood, and vision.

2. John Coltrane: Blue Train. Although Coltrane is better known and appreciated for his more avant-garde recordings, this Blue Note album features a plethora of infectious melodies and some of the most accessible soloing 'Trane ever committed to record.

3. Charles Mingus: The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady. Mingus Ah Um is the conventional choice for old Charles, but Black Saint is arguably the most cohesive and artistically-adventurous statement in jazz history. Mingus employs an eleven-piece band in order to explore the recesses of his psyche, and the results are challenging but highly rewarding.

4. Herbie Hancock: Empyrean Isles. A simultaneously catchy and abstruse album, Isles takes many of the lessons of Miles's "Second Great Quintet," of which Herbie was a member, and places a unique stamp on them.

5. Miles Davis: Nefertiti. This is the moment when arguably the most talented jazz band ever assembled, Miles's Second Great Quintet, reached its apex. The volume and tempo are dialed back a bit, but the shifts in mood and the interplay between the rhythm and lead sections are nothing short of astounding.

6. Roland Kirk: The Inflated Tear. This album is brimming with personality. Melodic and soothing in places, it is also eccentric and frenetic in others. Kirk is a master of his instrument.

7. Thelonious Monk: Genius of Modern Music, Volume 1: Monk was always unique, and, despite the many precedents and standard tunes that this album established, no other artist has ever replicated Monk's off-kilter, angular playing and compositional style.

8. Wayne Shorter: Juju. Like Empyrean Isles, this album and its main artist are cut from the cloth of Miles's Second Quintet. Here, Wayne simply presents a cohesive set of impeccably written and performed songs.

9. Andrew Hill: Black Fire. Hill is often overlooked in discussions of jazz greats, but he was one of the most individualistic and gifted composers of his generation. His later work with Blue Note favored mellow, arty arrangements, but Black Fire turns up the tempo and lets its players really cut loose.

10. McCoy Tyner: The Real McCoy. Tyner is perhaps best known as John Coltrane's pianist, but on this, one of his first efforts as a bandleader, he allows his piano to step to the front of the arrangements. Like Shorter's Juju, the compositions are stunning throughout.

Oliver Nelson's The Blues and the Abstract Truth is a recent acquisition of mine that I suspect will creep onto this list at some point.
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Cool. Cool cool cool.

I had never heard the word "abstruse" before.
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In certain contexts, it's kind of like "obtuse," only more abstruse.
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Old 07-21-2011, 01:24 AM   #45
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So the Inner Mounting Flame by Mahavishnu Orchestra sounds like Hot Rats and In A Silent Way making sweet, sweet love. Why has nobody mentioned this record? I knew John McLaughlin was a guitar genius based on Tribute To Jack Johnson, but this is ridiculous.

I heard brawls went on during the making of the record, which is a good sign in this context.
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