The Cure: 4:13 DREAM

[bono_212]

OH! OH GOD. Maybe I shouldn't be digging through Cure news archives. Jesus....Christ....

Nick Carter - Opening (Plain Song) and I'm taking off - YouTube

EDIT: At least he doesn't sing any of it.

 

[LemonMelon]

There are a couple of Cure albums that are for all intents and purposes Robert Smith solo albums, and he seems to still love recording, so I don't know why there wouldn't be another "Cure" album. He'd make a whole lot more money that way.

They probably won't book more than a handful of shows at a time from now on, but hopefully they'll play some US gigs at some point.

 

[bono_212]

I was trying to find that interview I was talking about so that I could back up what I'm saying with fact, but I'm at a loss. Maybe it was a nightmare. That would be just fine.

 

[u2popmofo]

By the way, I refuse to click on that Youtube video.

 

[iron yuppie]

Sorry, no news here. I felt like ranking the albums though, even if it has been done before:

1. Seventeen Seconds: no album has ever created such permeating mood out of such sparse instrumentation. One of the exemplars of post-punk as an aesthetic.

2. The Head on the Door: dark sensibilities and pop structures have rarely been wedded so effectively.

3. Disintegration: epic in every sense of the term and possessed of a beautiful melancholy.

4. Pornography: the chaotic and nihilistic precursor to the more reflective emotional states to come later.

5. Faith: more brooding than either Seventeen Seconds or Pornography, Faith seems to be the most introspective of the early albums.

6. Three Imaginary Boys
7. Kiss Me x3
8. Wish
9. The Top
10. Wild Mood Swings
11. Bloodflowers
12. The Cure
13. 4:13 Dream

 

[Danny Boy]

Every time this thread gets bumped from now own, I'm going to assume it's a retirement announcement.

 

[LemonMelon]

Haven't heard them all, but almost:

All-time classics:

1. The Head On The Door
2. Disintegration

Great stuff:

3. Boys Don't Cry (I don't listen to Three Imaginary Boys; I'm not so much of a purist that I would sit through Foxy Lady over Jumping Someone Else's Train)
4. Faith
5. Seventeen Seconds

Really good, not quite great:

6. Bloodflowers

Decent:

7. Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me
8. Pornography
9. Wish

Unmemorable:

10. 4:13 Dream
11. The Top

 

[iron yuppie]

Unmemorable:

11. The Top

That is one word I have never heard used to describe The Top. Self-aggrandizing and unfiltered, yes. But unmemorable, no.

 

[LemonMelon]

I don't remember a single song on it, except The Caterpillar! The only real impression I got of it is that Robert Smith went into the studio with no ideas and released the first 10 songs that came to mind.

 

[nielsgov]

I was just going to post here that I think The Top is really underrated. I like it more than The Head on the Door. How's that for an unpopular opinion?

Disintegration is still my favourite, followed by Wish. I still have some albums to go though.

 

[djerdap]

LM, Head on the Door a classic and Pornography is just decent? Eeeehh... Have you seen the Trilogy DVD? Maybe you'll warm up to Pornography more.

I think I did this before, but what the hell:

1. Disintegration (one of the best albums I've heard)
2. Pornography (psychotic and hopelessly depressing at the same time)

3. Wish (it has some of their best rocking songs, so the atrocity of Friday I'm In Love can be ignored. Some great b-sides as well from this era.)
4. Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me (too long and at times cheesy, but some of their best work is here, especially in the 1st half)
5. Bloodflowers (if they stopped here as they said they will, it would have been one of the most successful final albums for a 20+ year-old band)
6. Seventeen Seconds (a moody, sombre, unique-sounding little masterpiece)
7. Faith (All Cats Are Grey/The Funeral Party is one of the greatest 2-song combos)
8. The Head on the Door

9. Three Imaginary Boys
10.Wild Mood Swings
11.The Cure
12.The Top
13.4:13 Dream

BTW, everybody should get Show. One of my favourite live albums in general.

 

[u2popmofo]

Cure albums I love:

Disintegration
Head on the Door
Seventeen Seconds
Pornography

Cure albums I really, really like:

Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me
Faith
Wish
Three Imaginary Boys / Boys Don't Cry

Cure albums I really like:

Bloodflowers
Wild Mood Swings

Cure albums I like:

The Top
The Cure (though I "really, really" liked this when it was released)

Cure albums I dislike:

4:13 Nightmare


Now I really want to listen to 'At Night'.

 

[nielsgov]

1. Disintegration

2. Wish

3. The Top
4. The Head on the Door

5. Seventeen Seconds
6. Faith

That's all I've heard so far. It seems like I like their first, more moody albums a lot less than most people. I do enjoy every album I've listed however.

 

[LemonMelon]

You haven't heard Boys Don't Cry?? What the fuck are you doing?

 

[iron yuppie]

That's Three Imaginary Boys, LM.

 

[LemonMelon]

Songs on Three Imaginary Boys:

Foxy Lady
Meathook
So What
It's Not You
The Weedy Burton

Songs on Boys Don't Cry:

Jumping Someone Else's Train
Boys Don't Cry
Plastic Passion
Killing an Arab
World War

I mean, maybe you don't want nielsgov to like the Cure. Maybe you want to keep them all to yourself. But there is literally no other reason to recommend Three Imaginary Boys over Boys Don't Cry.

 

[iron yuppie]

What you're recommending is like listening to the US version of Between the Buttons rather than the UK version. I thought you were a purist, man.

 

[LemonMelon]

It's nothing like that. There are things to recommend about the UK version of Between the Buttons (Back Street Girl). Boys Don't Cry replaces all the shitty songs on Three Imaginary Boys with all of the Cure's best early songs.

I'm a purist in the sense that I would never, ever listen to US Beatles albums because they distort their artistic progression. That's not the case with the Cure's early stuff, which all sounds distinct from the Seventeen Seconds period.

 

[bono_212]

Bah, I don't know what to believe anymore:

Chain Of Flowers: Robert press conference at Vieilles Charrues

 

[Danny Boy]

I'm preordering this "Frankenweenie" album because Robert Smith is on it.

Desperate times, people.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008NR8Y8M?ie=UTF8&force-full-site=1&ref_=aw_bottom_links

 

[nielsgov]

This is totally unrelated, but more OT.

My copies of Wish and Disintegration arrived in the post today. Those two are still my favourite albums by The Cure.

The lyrics in the Wish booklet are ridiculously small and nigh on impossible to read, but I'll manage. #firstworldproblems

 

[u2popmofo]

I'm preordering this "Frankenweenie" album because Robert Smith is on it.

Desperate times, people.

Amazon.com: Frankenweenie Unleashed: Various Artists: Music

Can you not buy the track individually?

 

[Danny Boy]

My experience with soundtracks has always been that whichever single track I want is never available individually.

I tend to buy all things Cure related on CD, anyway.

 

[u2popmofo]

My experience with soundtracks has always been that whichever single track I want is never available individually.

I tend to buy all things Cure related on CD, anyway.

Hahahaha, so true. I've still only ever heard that Thom Yorke song from Twilight once or twice because of that! So annoying, can't even stream it on Spotify.

 

[djerdap]

This produced the biggest WTF of the day from my side:

Lullaby - Jimmy Page and Robert Plant - New Orleans - March 11, 1995 - YouTube

 

[u2popmofo]

WTF, how did I not know that existed until now?!

 

[bono_212]

I hate you djerdap

 

[LemonMelon]

This should really go in Random Cure Talk.

 

[djerdap]

What the fuck did I do? :mcnulty:

I'm seeing the Zeppelin film tomorrow and maybe that'll be an easter egg somewhere.

I can just sense the energy being completely sucked out of the room at the moment that song was played. Not the smartest move they did, although it was honorable of Page and Plant to give Porl Thompson the spotlight in that way.

 

[bono_212]

Oh lol, just any time I see The Cure thread bumped a small glimmer of hope burns in my heart.