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Old 09-11-2009, 04:23 AM   #46
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Anyway, I love going old testament on silly fucks who say The Beatles weren't influential and were only popular because of the lack of competition when they were a band in the 70s.
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forced adj. (the following from several sources):

2 : done or produced with effort, exertion, or pressure <a forced laugh>

2. false or unnatural: forced jollity

2. Produced under strain; not spontaneous: forced laughter.

Again, I know he WANTED to do it that way. He wants to sound rough around the edges to combat his image. And you can sense that desperation, that's all I'm saying. John sounds more natural when he's screaming; it just fits his style and range better.

Also, here's an anectode from the recording sessions:

"He came to the studio early every day for a week to sing it because his voice was too clear. He wanted it to sound strained, like he had been performing it all week."

If that's not forced, I don't know what is.
It's done with exertion, true, but the second and third definitions, saying it's "false and unnatural" and "produced under strain", is the part I don't agree with, but that's just me. I don't think he's really straining; I think he had the natural ability to pull that off.

Of course, that anectode says otherwise, so perhaps I'm in the wrong here.

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Yes. Though he really only used it on Revolver, Sgt. Pepper's, and on The Inner Light, no? Paul did this crap for like 5 straight albums, plus singles.
It's a smaller sample size, yes; just pointing it out for comparison, as there aren't as many overall Harrison compositions to begin with.
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All My Loving really as good a pop song as there has ever been. It's perfect. Over the past day, I've been listening to the early recordings the most (in fact, I haven't hit Revolver, Sgt. Pepper, Magical Mystery Tour, or The White Album), and I'm just absolutely plundered by the plethora of perfect melodies--album tracks and all, originals and covers. Just brilliant pop music!
All My Loving is beautiful.
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Not aimed at anybody in particular, this. Just kind of a general reaction to 20+ years of hearing, "Yeah, but McCartney was shit." The conversation has me thinking about all of this.

I will never understand any hate for McCartney, re: his work with The Beatles. Never. A few bad songs? Of course, given that he suffers from being human, even if only just. What a sin. They all wrote bad songs. He's not my "favorite" Beatle, his post-Beatles output is pretty shit (just like the vast majority of everybody else's), he could be childish, but he did kind of write a spectacularly high percentage of the greatest songs of the last 150 years. I choose to focus on that last part, rather than "Wild Honey Pie."
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I've been thinking that perhaps I didn't need to bother purchasing Yellow Submarine. All of the songs were already remixed and remastered a decade ago and sound fantastic, and I could care less for the score. I may download first and do a comparison to be sure, but I'm betting it won't sound drastically different (and if it does, it may be worse).

I haven't opened it yet, so I may return it. However, I wonder if I do if I lose the gift card.

Perhaps I'll just exchange it for another CD without using the receipt.
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If you have the reciept you might just get a new gift card.

But the salesperson is probably inundated with customers experiencing cognitive dissonance or regret at purchasing the Yellow Submarine soundtrack.

Only essential for completists, I suppose.
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WTF? I just noticed on the Magical Mystery Tour CD that it says "Let It Be Mini-Documentary."

MAJOR FAIL.
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WTF? I just noticed on the Magical Mystery Tour CD that it says "Let It Be Mini-Documentary."

MAJOR FAIL.
oooh misprint - doesn't that make it a collectible? Or do they bother with crap like that now a days?
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Given the amount of copies made, it's going to be a very easily found misprint.

Unless I've got an oddity here. Anyone else have the same thing?
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Given the amount of copies made, it's going to be a very easily found misprint.

Unless I've got an oddity here. Anyone else have the same thing?
Just checked, mine says Magical Mystery Tour Mini Documentary. Not Let It Be. So one of us has an oddity for sure.
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Not aimed at anybody in particular, this. Just kind of a general reaction to 20+ years of hearing, "Yeah, but McCartney was shit." The conversation has me thinking about all of this.

I will never understand any hate for McCartney, re: his work with The Beatles. Never. A few bad songs? Of course, given that he suffers from being human, even if only just. What a sin. They all wrote bad songs. He's not my "favorite" Beatle, his post-Beatles output is pretty shit (just like the vast majority of everybody else's), he could be childish, but he did kind of write a spectacularly high percentage of the greatest songs of the last 150 years. I choose to focus on that last part, rather than "Wild Honey Pie."
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Not aimed at anybody in particular, this. Just kind of a general reaction to 20+ years of hearing, "Yeah, but McCartney was shit." The conversation has me thinking about all of this.

I will never understand any hate for McCartney, re: his work with The Beatles. Never. A few bad songs? Of course, given that he suffers from being human, even if only just. What a sin. They all wrote bad songs. He's not my "favorite" Beatle, his post-Beatles output is pretty shit (just like the vast majority of everybody else's), he could be childish, but he did kind of write a spectacularly high percentage of the greatest songs of the last 150 years. I choose to focus on that last part, rather than "Wild Honey Pie."
This.
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Given the amount of copies made, it's going to be a very easily found misprint.

Unless I've got an oddity here. Anyone else have the same thing?
Mine says that as well.
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Just checked, mine says Magical Mystery Tour Mini Documentary. Not Let It Be. So one of us has an oddity for sure.
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Mine says that as well.
Interesting. So apparently the error was discovered during the printing of the initial run. I'd be curious to know how many got done that way before it was corrected.

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