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Old 06-20-2009, 10:00 PM   #46
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Ultimately, who cares? As long as a band makes good music, they're all in it for money ultimately anyway. Why wouldn't ya be? Better than working some dead-end job with average pay, 9 to 5, without any recognition, and having no time to make music and play gigs. Oasis and Radiohead have proven time and time again that they are capable of making brilliant, resonating tunes. Good on them.
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Old 06-21-2009, 12:52 AM   #47
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We've gone two pages without talking about Aerosmith? Really?



As an indoor-roller coaster, it's fantastic, and they play my 2 favorite songs of theirs ("Walk This Way" and "Love in an Elevator") but give me a fucking break.
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Old 06-21-2009, 01:00 AM   #48
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The music for this commercial was originally going to be by The Church.

So I can never watch it without screaming "YOU FUCKING BASTARD STOLE THE CHURCH'S COMMERCIAL!!"



(Hey...I figured I started this thread -- eons ago -- I might as well pop up and comment in it. )
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haha, i didn't even realise this thread was old.
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Old 06-21-2009, 06:16 AM   #49
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Ultimately, who cares? As long as a band makes good music, they're all in it for money ultimately anyway.
BULLSHIT. Maybe that's your value system, but there are some people who are in it because music is a religion to them.

Besides, if you want to be cynical, guys probably start bands to get chicks more than they do to make money. You can't have to be very good to acquire the former.
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Blokes start bands cos they don't want to be on the dole, work boring office 9-5 jobs, cut their hair short AND so they can get chicks. And make pots of cash. A lot of them do love music too. Doesn't have to negate the appeal of the former.
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No. This is:



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Ultimately, who cares? As long as a band makes good music, they're all in it for money ultimately anyway. Why wouldn't ya be? Better than working some dead-end job with average pay, 9 to 5, without any recognition, and having no time to make music and play gigs. Oasis and Radiohead have proven time and time again that they are capable of making brilliant, resonating tunes. Good on them.
Well 1 out of 2 ain't bad.
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BULLSHIT. Maybe that's your value system, but there are some people who are in it because music is a religion to them.

Besides, if you want to be cynical, guys probably start bands to get chicks more than they do to make money. You can't have to be very good to acquire the former.
lol @ there being a "value system" when it comes to something like this.

Just because a band might also be in it for chicks and/or cash doesn't mean that the music they make doesn't require effort and talent.

Ultimately, anyway, when we look at Oasis, fame came to them, they didn't "sell out" in the name of fame fame fatal fame. Noel could have rested on his laurels after (WTS)MG, and stopped churning out song after song, but he kept going 'cause he enjoys making music so much.

I'm sure the lads from Radiohead and Wilco have picked up their fair share of horny, groupie ladies who wanna sleep with someone a tad famous.
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We've gone two pages without talking about Aerosmith? Really?



As an indoor-roller coaster, it's fantastic, and they play my 2 favorite songs of theirs ("Walk This Way" and "Love in an Elevator") but give me a fucking break.
The Rock n Rollercoaster doesn't bother me, "Just Push Play" in a Dodge truck commercial, that bothered me. (And a certain halftime debacle didn't help either).
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The logic that has shown them sell some of their greatest songs to be used in commercials, including Satisfaction, Start Me Up and You Can't Always Get What You Want, and they were one of the first bands to tour with big corporate sponsorship.

They also sued The Verve for their sampling of an INSTRUMENTAL Stones track in Bittersweet Symphony, and wound up taking ALL of the royalties from the song. Keep in mind this is after The Verve had ALREADY licensed the sample from them, but they were sued on some technicality after it became a huge hit. And then they had the indecency to sell it to be used in a commercial against The Verve's wishes. Sure, this was all Allen Klein's doing, but the Stones could have stopped their manager had they desired.

Exactly how are they NOT corporate whores? I can't think of a greedier band in history.
they also gave a writing credit and, thus, royalties to Anybody Seen My Baby? to K.D. Lang because Jagger's daughter said she thought the chorus had a rough resemblance to Constant Craving... which is something they didn't have to do and Lang herself never asked them to do.

but yes, you can make anybody out to be a sellout if you'd like.

U2 of course aren't sellouts because of the iPod ad because they "took no money" for the advert.

great... they took a percentage of every single U2 iPod that was sold, but they didn't take money for the ad.

sellouts are in the eyes of the beholder...
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they also gave a writing credit and, thus, royalties to Anybody Seen My Baby? to K.D. Lang because Jagger's daughter said she thought the chorus had a rough resemblance to Constant Craving... which is something they didn't have to do and Lang herself never asked them to do.
there's no room for logic in this thread!
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I don't get what's so bad about using music in ads I mean tonnes of successful indie bands do it, The Flaming Lips and The Shins get used in beer commercials, Arcade Fire had half of Neon Bible used in various ads, if I thought of stuff like that as selling out I'd think the majority of artists sold out
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And you'd be right: the majority of artists HAVE sold out.

Not to sound like some kind of condescending old man, but there was a time when selling your songs for commercials was NOT a widespread practice, and many artists were totally against the idea.

Times have changed; namely people have become greedier and have less integrity.
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why else start a band if it wasnt for the money?
Its better than 9-5 and you get to travel the world

Musicians cant change the world anyways. Just ask Bono.
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