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Old 07-30-2009, 04:27 PM   #46
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All I need to do now is find a billboard with "Canadian smile" on it and my life will be complete.
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Old 07-30-2009, 05:28 PM   #47
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Btw, indie diehards like impy13 and LemonMelon liking a song such as Umbrella, is something I cannot get my head around.
Umbrella transcends all barriers, whether it be color (in this case, white vs. pale hipster white) or taste.
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Plus, when you're at a Lupe Fiasco / Kanye concert and get to see her dancing around in one of her many prostitute outfits to the song, it's hard not to like.
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But she represents everything that your beloved indie bands are against... top 40/chart success/mainstream music taste.
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You really don't understand indie music fans, Zootsuit.
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You really don't understand indie music fans, Zootsuit.
Okay, care to explain what I don't understand about indie music fans, smart guy?
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Old 07-30-2009, 05:47 PM   #52
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There's more to it than just the raw chart numbers. In Rihanna's case, collaborators matter a great deal. On Umbrella, Tricky, one of the founders of trip-hop and all-around indietastic guy, had a hand in the production. Also, Jay-Z collaborated on the track. He may have cracked the mainstream, but he still has a great deal of credibility.
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Okay, care to explain what I don't understand about indie music fans, smart guy?
While I will agree that there are certainly many hipsters out there who ONLY like indie music because it's not popular, I'd personally say the majority are just straight up music fans who only like indie music because they are just interested in music, not how a beauty queen looks in an MTV video. I'd say you're more likely to an "indie" fan who appreciates an actual good mainstream pop song, than the douchey kind who hates anything that has fans. It's like this forum though, where unfortunately the well grounded types aren't the most vocal or annoying, and thus it's easier to make assumptions about an entire scene based off of one or two annoying types.

I was listening to my local independent community supported radio station this morning, and a guest brought up the fact that you're more likely to hear many household name type classic artists (like Neil Yong, Bob Dylan, etc) on an independent station than a mainstream station, as the mainstream station is ultra concerned about living up to what their respective advertisers want played to get more ratings, where as the independent station is just playing songs they think are good. I've heard more Clash and U2 "back catalog" tracks on this station than I even hear "big hits" on main stream stations.

The best thing about the scene in my opinion is a focus on the music, not on all the annoying unrelated crapola (image, advertising, looks, fame, sales, popularity, etc).
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The best thing about the scene in my opinion is a focus on the music, not on all the annoying unrelated crapola (image, advertising, looks, fame, sales, popularity, etc).


Although, it must be said, labels do capitalize on the indie "scene" from time to time. I have a few specific artists in mind that shall remain nameless. It even transfers over to film. I've always suspected that Nick And Nora's Infinite Playlist was created in a lab, engineered to be consumed by younger hipster audiences.
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"Image Is Everything"
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While I will agree that there are certainly many hipsters out there who ONLY like indie music because it's not popular, I'd personally say the majority are just straight up music fans who only like indie music because they are just interested in music, not how a beauty queen looks in an MTV video. I'd say you're more likely to an "indie" fan who appreciates an actual good mainstream pop song, than the douchey kind who hates anything that has fans. It's like this forum though, where unfortunately the well grounded types aren't the most vocal or annoying, and thus it's easier to make assumptions about an entire scene based off of one or two annoying types.

I was listening to my local independent community supported radio station this morning, and a guest brought up the fact that you're more likely to hear many household name type classic artists (like Neil Yong, Bob Dylan, etc) on an independent station than a mainstream station, as the mainstream station is ultra concerned about living up to what their respective advertisers want played to get more ratings, where as the independent station is just playing songs they think are good. I've heard more Clash and U2 "back catalog" tracks on this station than I even hear "big hits" on main stream stations.

The best thing about the scene in my opinion is a focus on the music, not on all the annoying unrelated crapola (image, advertising, looks, fame, sales, popularity, etc).
Now Zoots won't go to Urban Outfitters. Good job.
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Now Zoots won't go to Urban Outfitters. Good job.
Nor will I (as I don't like to pay $40 for a super ugly skin tight t-shirt).........I'd rather pay $50 for a super ugly skin tight Radiohead tour t-shirt!

Regardless, I am glad that Zoots is posting in this section of the forum again.
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Here's my list. It's better than that rubbish.

Love is Dead - Brett Andersen
First of the Gang to Die - Morrissey
I Have Forgiven Jesus - Morrissey
Daniel - Bat for Lashes
What's a Girl to Do - Bat for Lashes
Sometimes You Can't Make it on your own - U2
Mercy - U2
Moment of Surrender - U2
Home and Dry - Pet Shop Boys
I Get Along - Pet Shop Boys
The Promise - Girls Aloud
Milkshake - Kelis
The Great Beyond - REM
Let's Make Love and Listen to Death from Above - CSS
Heart Failed in the Back of a Taxi - Saint Etienne
Finisterre - Saint Etienne
Soft Like Me - Saint Etienne
The Love of Richard Nixon - Manic Street Preachers
Tender - Blur
Coffee and TV - Blur
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Those Blur songs came out over 10 years ago, but what the hell, good choices.
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Old 07-30-2009, 07:21 PM   #60
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Those Blur songs came out over 10 years ago, but what the hell, good choices.
Yeah looks like they are slightly outside the 10 years.

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