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Old 03-31-2009, 08:16 AM   #46
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Then why do you like Bright Eyes?
I never said that I did.
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Old 03-31-2009, 01:18 PM   #47
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Nice to see Xiu Xiu and Deerhoof on the list, and higher than I would've expected them to be. I've been on a huge Deerhoof kick for the last few weeks.
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Old 03-31-2009, 03:25 PM   #48
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Ummm R.E.M. and its first five albums are the quintessential example of indie success. Yet none of them are there? Lists are dumb.
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Old 03-31-2009, 03:27 PM   #49
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If I never heard another R.E.M. song, it wouldn't make a shit. My life wouldn't be any better or worse. So overrated.
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I don't really care what you think about them, the statement I made still holds.
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Old 03-31-2009, 03:31 PM   #51
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I don't care what you think of them either. I know they're seminal albums. That's great. I think they suck. I didn't expect my not liking R.E.M. to make you reevaluate your stance on the issue or anything.

A consensus on things like this is impossible when music is a distinctly subjective medium. That's where we agree: this list is stupid.
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Old 03-31-2009, 03:40 PM   #52
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R.E.M. more or less does suck now. Accelerate was a decent approximation of what the band used to be, but not a great album in its own right.

If you don't like Murmur, on the other hand, you are a douche.
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Well, good thing I never claimed I'm not a douche.
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Old 03-31-2009, 03:49 PM   #54
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It's more of a veiled compliment than an insult at this stage.

In any case, I too am surprised by the lack of Murmur or Lifes Rich Pageant on the list. R.E.M. isn't exactly indietastic anymore, but they used to be, and they were damn good at that stage.
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I don't care what you think of them either. I know they're seminal albums. That's great. I think they suck. I didn't expect my not liking R.E.M. to make you reevaluate your stance on the issue or anything.

A consensus on things like this is impossible when music is a distinctly subjective medium. That's where we agree: this list is stupid.
I think you're both fucking wrong. Fact.
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Here's the thing with you indie kids. You're like the ADHD Romantics. You're all convinced that "inspiration" and "novelty" are the life blood of art, but you've got the attention span of an epileptic fit. You're so bent on hearing/seeing/doing something diffrnt you can appreciate craft.

Well I'll play Mary to your Percy and tell you that your creation's a fuckin' abomination.
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I prefer Surfer Rosa to Doolittle
I don't find this surprising in the least.
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Well, at least the material on In Utero is more complex. I understand, it's too abrasive at times and seems like a bitter reaction to the reception of Nevermind, but I honestly think its peaks (like All Apologies, for one) are higher than those of its predecessor. But song for song, I'd still take Nevermind in a heartbeat.
Oh, I was being sarcastic, as always. I would take In Utero over Nevermind. I think it has aged more gracefully thanks to some highly suitable and gripping production, and yes, the peaks are dizzying. I'm not a huge Nirvana fan, but I will always love Scentless Apprentice, Pennyroyal Tea, and All Apologies.
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Ummm R.E.M. and its first five albums are the quintessential example of indie success.
Good call. Murmur not showing up on this list is silly.
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Am I the only one who vastly prefers Doolittle to Surfer Rosa? Is there some sort of non-Indie qualifier that the former met that took it out of competition?
No, but I'm pretty sure I'm the only person who prefers Bossanova and Trompe le Monde to both of them. I've been chased out of small towns just for thinking that.
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