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Old 08-20-2014, 11:30 AM   #31
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Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't really see that look as a black stereotype anyways...not sure if that guy was joking, or what.
He might have been joking, yeah. But if he wasn't, he's a complete dick head.

Mobvok, stop posting tweets from other people who don't know a damn thing about Taylor and come back here and talk to me with your own words, please.
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Old 08-20-2014, 11:39 AM   #32
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Dude, Hater's gonna hate, just shake it off, GAF.
Well, that's what SHE does. I'm not that strong. Clearly.
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I honestly can't believe there are people on this forum that give a fuck about Taylor Swift. Even my daughter, who was all in when she first came out, has moved on.
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Are you trying to start a fight or something? Why come in here and say that, given how GAF has responded so far?
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Old 08-20-2014, 02:18 PM   #35
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Excuse me? It's a popular topic in pop culture right now and it's in the news, and as well it's at the top of the Unread Posts thingy on my phone. I was standing next to my daughter when the umpteenth news report over the 'shocking video' came on, and she rolled her eyes.

Did I really need to post that explanation? Jesus Christ. If an apparently grown member of this forum cant take my opinion on it he can feel free to put me on ignore.
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Old 08-20-2014, 02:26 PM   #36
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Gvox and I are cool. We've discussed Tay in the past. I'm at work now but I'll respond later.
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Has the media really painted it as a "shocking" video? I believe you, but that's just fucking stupid. It's over-the-top and goofy as hell, but there's absolutely nothing shocking about it. If one watches closely, it's pretty damn self-deprecating and actually stays true to what she's been about since the start. Those people in the video are fans she's met throughout the years, who now get to say they were in a film with their favorite singer. She's playing dress up which she's ALWAYS loved to do in videos and promo things. It might be on a bigger scale and a bit more ostentatious, but it's very Taylor. This might sound douchey but it's true: Real fans will recognize this.

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I think its mindless pop drivel.
But that style of music is not and has never been my cup of tea.
I know it's not your cup of tea and I hear you. But I do think that "mindless" is the wrong word. This is a girl who has been a truly thoughtful songwriter for many years now. This isn't a pop princess like Britney or Miley or someone like that who doesn't have any input in the creative side of the art. She's known for being a stubborn perfectionist with her craft, and she's a very serious songwriter.

It's the lead single to her self-proclaimed "pop" album, so it stands to reason for it to be more on the shallow end than most of her stuff, but there's no way that she just threw this thing together or that it came off of a conveyor belt. That's just not how she works, and it's well documented.

The song is repetitive, has a sheen to it, and it's almost annoyingly catchy, but in my opinion all of that stuff belies some real sad truths in the lyric. I think it's a genius track.

Taylor Swift ain't mindless pop drivel. Never has been and never will be.
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I really like the album cover, too. For a number of reasons:

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I'm reporting in live from an undisclosed location in glamorous LA on vacation so that's why it's taken so long to weigh in and this app has eaten 3 drafts so let me say: I'm ambivalent, and I think it's meaningfully different from 22 and WANEGBT which are songs in the mold I loved/came around to.


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Thanks, mobs. Good. What are you doing in LA? Having dinner with Kobe?
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I really like the album cover, too. For a number of reasons:

I like the concept, but I wish she were wearing a different colored top - it's so washed out it looks like she doesn't have any arms.
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She lost both her arms in 'Nam.
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Thanks, mobs. Good. What are you doing in LA? Having dinner with Kobe?

That was my Thursday night. Last night I egged Blake Griffin's house and things got a little hairy, but that's a different story. I'm taking a brief, long weekend vacation from work in Seattle to chill w relatives down here, and local NBA stars.

The analogy I'm thinking of for the songs We Are Never/22 to Shake it Off is Elevation to Vertigo in the choices to hone the song. The shake shake shake part of the chorus doesn't bug me really, only in combination with the part before ("cruising/moving"). Those parts together is where it feels a bit anonymous. I see how it's part of a catchy song, but I want her to be distinctively Taylor, not just a writer of a popular song.


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Oh I'm turning off that app sig cause that is annoying.
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