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Old 01-24-2016, 09:59 PM   #1
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Steven Wilson - great musician or old man yelling at cloud

Bumping the Porcupine Tree thread gives the false impression there's actually news about the band, so let's have a separate thread for Steven Wilson's solo stuff - especially since solo career definitely seems to be his main path now. This interview contains a comment that's depressing for those of us who want more Porcupine Tree: Steven Wilson: Hiding in Plain Sight Review | Under the Radar - Music Magazine

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But it is frustrating sometimes that I have to explain to them, four albums into my solo career, that if Porcupine Tree was to get back together—and, by the way, I have never ruled that out—it will be a side project. There should be no question in anyone's mind that this is now my main musical path, my solo work.
Also read the link to see how fucking grumpy he is about social media and that people don't interact in the ways he thinks they should. But basically everything he recorded up to 2009 is brilliant, so I guess I can forgive him yelling at a few clouds.

He's released a new EP this month called 4.5, a sort of stopgap of outtakes before his fifth solo album. It's not bad, though the live version of PT's Don't Hate Me at the end is the most sterile live recording I've ever heard. They might as well have done it in a recording studio.
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I had forgotten about 4 ½ coming out. I just ordered the Blu-ray from Amazon.

I did the same thing with Hand. Cannot. Erase. and the 24/96 rip sounds fantastic. The Blu-ray comes with a bonus track to boot.

I'm happy that Wilson is consistently supporting high-res digital formats, especially when it's half the price of the vinyl.
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I sometimes can't tell artists are just becoming artistically challenging or just flat out self-absorbing
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Old man yelling at cloud.
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see? this is why I hate prog or technical music or whatever. and instrumentals.
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I've only heard 4.5 once but I agree that it's an alright release of outtakes. I like the Neil Young style guitar that opens the record though.

Seeing him at the Beacon Theatre in March. Apparently, in addition to the entirety of Hand Cannot Erase, he's playing more PT material? That'd be excellent, given that I got into the band after they started their hiatus.
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New Blackfield album coming out next January. Apparently, it's a return to the full partnership between Aviv and Wilson, like their first two Blackfield records. Maybe this one will actually be worth buying then, unlike Welcome to my DNA and especially IV.

https://www.facebook.com/blackfieldh...0083748728652/

Also, yes, this one is titled Blackfield V.
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Yes, definitely interested in that Blackfield album. SW's playing a gig in Melbourne later this month and I'll head down to see what he does but my expectations are low.
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So, SW last night. A bit weird for me. During Porcupine Tree's two tours of Australia, my love for the band was in full bloom and I was front row at all six shows. Incredible nights, all of them. They were very much defining events of my early twenties. I still count PT as one of my all time favourite bands. But last night felt very different. My indifference to SW's solo material, and my knowledge that VIP ticketholders would be let in early and already fill up the front, meant I didn't even bother heading down to the venue until about 20 minutes before he was due to start (there was no opening act). The crowd is clearly an older one now, with much more grey hair and no moshing. And the evening certainly lacked the definitive qualities of my experiences in 2008 and 2010.

But it was still a pretty good show and it ran for three hours. I managed to get myself about three people back from the stage with a good vantage point to watch SW, and Hand Cannot Erase is one of his better solo efforts so I was not bored by him playing it in full (Grace for Drowning or Raven would have been interminable). The presentation of the album with accompanying videos was very effective. The rest of the show had some good PT selections - I had heard most of them before, but the one I had not, "Don't Hate Me", was a definite improvement on the studio version (no awful sax solo, for one). I rate "Sleep Together" as one of PT's very worst songs so it continues to surprise me how good it is live, but I felt they added a bit of unnecessary prog wank to "Dark Matter". And easily his best solo song, "Harmony Korine", was in the set.

SW was much more chatty than I recall him being on PT tours, talking at some length before a few songs. A couple of these were in the "old man yelling at cloud" mould, including a ramble about the slow rate of album releases by bands "these days", and it's disappointing to learn that he thinks "The Raven That Refused to Sing" is the best song he's ever written. But other chat was humorous, especially his dry wit when the band fucked up "Hand Cannot Erase", or heartfelt when he discussed the passing of Bowie and Prince or the importance of music in working through emotion.

So I'm glad I went, even if the ticket price was insane and it meant that I missed out on The Soft Moon's show a few blocks over at the Curtin (though SW finished early enough that I could have just about made it!).
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I'm moved to ask if 'old man yelling at cloud' is your shorthand for 'guy who doesn't slavishly fall in line with every new thing'. If it did, I'm guilty as charged.
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Kieran, do keep up with my Simpsons references.
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If I was Grandpa Simpson, I'd do that thing right now where he comes into the house, hangs his hat on the stand, turns right around, takes the hat and heads back out the door.
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