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Old 05-04-2010, 11:16 PM   #436
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Apart from Dancing In The Dark, I don't think he was trying for a certain 80's sound. The rockers on BITUSA have the same feel as the ones on The River; it wasn't anything new.
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I think the infusion of the synth was as daring as he'd go
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Apart from Dancing In The Dark, I don't think he was trying for a certain 80's sound.

I tell ya, once I heard this song live with that wall of geetars a few tours ago, I was converted!
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More of that, less mindless geezer pop like Girls In Their Summer Clothes and Queen Of The Supermarket.

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girls in their summer clothes is a great tune, damn it.
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girls in their summer clothes is a great tune, damn it.


Re: what phanan said above and the synth 80s sound. I have no idea why I like BitUSA and dislike so much of The River, even though they have the same sound with that synthy thing.

I guess I just like the songs better on BitUSA?
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I don't think the sound of The River is anything like BITUSA.

Now excuse me while I exist the thread without explaining myself
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I think the rockers on The River are very similar, which was what I was talking about last night. Ramrod, with that keyboard riff, could have easily been on BITUSA.

The other songs, not so much.
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Like, yeah, and junk.
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girls in their summer clothes is a great tune, damn it.
It is a great tune. I don't know how you compare it to Queen of the Supermarket.
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It is a great tune. I don't know how you compare it to Queen of the Supermarket.
I agree that Girls In Their Summer Clothes is a little better, but just because you enjoy one doesn't mean the two can't be similar. I think we learned this from IYS' Forgiveness Rock Record bashing. Both songs are swaying, overblown, slightly creaky bids for youthful pop supremacy that show Bruce fighting against everything he does well at this stage in his career, as well as horrendous, synthetic production. I really, really hate Brendan O Brien.
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Both songs are swaying, overblown, slightly creaky bids for youthful pop supremacy that show Bruce fighting against everything he does well at this stage in his career, as well as horrendous, synthetic production.
I completely disagree. I think they're pretty damn different.
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Re: what phanan said above and the synth 80s sound. I have no idea why I like BitUSA and dislike so much of The River, even though they have the same sound with that synthy thing.

I guess I just like the songs better on BitUSA?
I feel the same about The River. I reckon it is the mixing. There is hardly any bass whatsoever in the sound. BITUSA suffers similar, but not as much. The River sounds very tinny. If it was remixed with more bottom end then I reckon it would sound a lot more in-line with the rest of Bruce's catalogue. As it is, it will always be an outlier for me.
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Yeah, that's part of it for me, too. I don't know much about music production and mixing and whatnot, I just know that I don't find The River rockers pleasant to listen to.

Tinny is exactly what springs to mind when I even just think about those rockers on the album with that synthy sound.
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If The River ever gets re-issued (which I am sure it will) they need to give the remixing duties to Garry Tallent. He'll fix it.
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