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Old 09-14-2016, 11:41 AM   #721
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Oh good, we've already moved on to the "people who don't like later day U2 must be doing it to be contrarian" bullshit.

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Oh good, we've already moved on to the "people who don't like later day U2 must be doing it to be contrarian" bullshit.

Yep, that's exactly what was said




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Serious question: how many actual non-troll members are there on here who like their post-Pop albums more than pre-Pop?

I mean, I like everything they have done to different degrees from Boy to SOI but yes, from ATYCLB on, there is a noticeable decline in quality, does anyone really argue this?
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There are some even here in Bang and Clatter who would pick ATYCLB over Pop because the songwriting is more streamlined. Pop is still divisive.

But by large, you're right. Most would acknowledge a serious drop in quality due to creative cowardice after Pop's reception in America.
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Serious question: how many actual non-troll members are there on here who like their post-Pop albums more than pre-Pop?

I mean, I like everything they have done to different degrees from Boy to SOI but yes, from ATYCLB on, there is a noticeable decline in quality, does anyone really argue this?
You mean Kite isn't actually their best song???
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Old 09-14-2016, 01:34 PM   #726
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Yep, that's exactly what was said

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I wonder how ripped to shreds Zooropa and Pop would get by people on here if this site had been around for 10-15 years when they first came out. It just seems so cool to trash on songs (or movies, or tv shows, etc.) people consider to be their favorites. I never quite see it about the arts as harshly as I do on here though. At least not with anyone I might ever consider a friend on any other site I visit (including social media). And I don't mean interference in general - I mean Lemonade Stand.
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I don't know if it's nostalgia or what, but a lot of people would put ATYCLB at or near the top of their rankings. Maybe not so many hardcore U2 fanatics, but certainly the general population would.

After that, no, I don't think there are very many people at all that would consider HTDAAB or NLOTH on par with The Joshua Tree. We're talking a fraction of a fraction here. If anything, that tiny group would be the contrarians in this discussion.
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I'd put ATYCLB on the top tier. Maybe it is nostalgia, as one of the first albums I ever truly connected with. But that's fine. It's really beautiful pop music that came about at the right time. That and the three 90s albums are all I ever really return to with frequency.
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ATYCLB is probably dead middle for me if I would sit down and ranked them, but I think SOI is their strongest since Zooropa.


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I consider SOI to be their best since ATYCLB. The latter is also the one that made me a fan, which is why it's always been in my Top 5.
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This used to be a more interesting discussion when it was 80s U2 vs 90s U2.

Nobody can seriously compare either of those eras with post-millennium U2, right?
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I honestly feel like I'd still like them a lot more if they'd just retired after ATYCLB. Saw them twice on the Vertigo tour and had a great time so I'd have missed that, but... yeah.
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I think it's all about perspective. I like post 90's U2 but I'll never like post 90's U2 even close to the level of 80's and 90's, but I also realize that there are very few groups that enter their 3rd and 4th decades still making good music.

I don't compare their new albums to Zooropa and my other favorites. They'll never compare, but that's ok. I think there have still been so many great moments post 90's both in the studio and live that I'm not going to limit my enjoyment simply because they're in a different era.

Yes, there has been a drop off, but I don't think it's as significant as some make it out to be. But really, fuck if I care all that much. I like all of their albums and if you don't like my opinion, go fuck yourself.
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ATYCLB has dropped precipitously in my estimation since I first heard it. Beautiful Day and Ground Beneath Her Feet (if you want to include it) are among their best tracks IMO, but the rest of it suffers from some horrendously under-cooked, convenient sentimentality that really doesn't hold any depth - Walk On and When I Look at the World, specifically.

Ground Beneath Her Feet and Stateless are indications of what might have been in that era. Would have loved to have heard a whole album in that vein, much like the aborted/contorted Moroccan sessions for No Line.
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ATYCLB has dropped precipitously in my estimation since I first heard it. Beautiful Day and Ground Beneath Her Feet (if you want to include it) are among their best tracks IMO, but the rest of it suffers from some horrendously under-cooked, convenient sentimentality that really doesn't hold any depth - Walk On and When I Look at the World, specifically.

Ground Beneath Her Feet and Stateless are indications of what might have been in that era. Would have loved to have heard a whole album in that vein, much like the aborted/contorted Moroccan sessions for No Line.
Also Bono's weakest album vocally because he was going through his chronic throat issues at the time.

I'd also add Kite and When I Look At The World to that list of great tracks. Walk On too.
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