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Old 02-23-2011, 10:49 PM   #121
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Well one wonders how all these artists were able to put out great album after great album each year, and now you get 38 minutes after 3.5 years that sounds somewhat half-baked or undercooked.
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Well one wonders how all these artists were able to put out great album after great album each year, and now you get 38 minutes after 3.5 years that sounds somewhat half-baked or undercooked.
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Well one wonders how all these artists were able to put out great album after great album each year, and now you get 38 minutes after 3.5 years that sounds somewhat half-baked or undercooked.
If this album were 50-60 minutes of "half-baked or undercooked" material would anyone be having this conversation?
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Well, if it was another mess like Hail To The Thief, maybe. But that had more good songs, which I prefer to the coherence and conciseness of KOL, because Feral is a total waste of time, and that's 1/8 of the album. Magpie mostly wastes another 1/8. That's 1/4 of the album already.

There's nothing on In Rainbows anywhere near that weak.
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At least now you're talking about the music, which is fine. Obviously people are going to be disappointed or enthusiastic about these things in turn, and I just never saw the value is spinning the disappointment into trivial matters of length or frequency or output, since none of that really has a whole lot to do with the work itself.
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In Rainbows was 42 minutes. There's not much of a difference.
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At least now you're talking about the music, which is fine. Obviously people are going to be disappointed or enthusiastic about these things in turn, and I just never saw the value is spinning the disappointment into trivial matters of length or frequency or output, since none of that really has a whole lot to do with the work itself.


Well it's hard to wholly separate the two. Hail to the Thief is a mess in part because it is too long. If you removed the few lesser tracks it would probably still not be very focused, but the length contributes to it.

Conversely, KOL comes off as slight because some of the tracks don't feel very substantial, and the fact that there are only eight of them (and none very long), exacerbates this.

Something like Born to Run has only 8 songs, but it's far from slight. Sgt. Pepper's is also under 40 minutes, and doesn't feel that way either.
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In Rainbows was 42 minutes. There's not much of a difference.
I think that only serves to show how much richer an album it is.

It sure doesn't feel only 42 minutes, and I don't mean that in a bad way.
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On the other hand, I could live without Nude, House of Cards and Videotape, which I find to all be varying degrees of terrible. And would be happier if it were just 7 songs long? Possibly. It goes both ways.
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there are only eight of them (and none very long), exacerbates this.
Get your mind out of the fucking gutter, man.
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Get your mind out of the fucking gutter, man.

You're soooo touchy about "length". tsk
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You're soooo touchy about "length". tsk
Normally, I wouldn't have any problem with anyone's head in the gutter, but he was wearing umbros. That's not pleasant for any of us.
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I think that only serves to show how much richer an album it is.

It sure doesn't feel only 42 minutes, and I don't mean that in a bad way.
In Rainbows is maybe my favorite album ever, so you won't get an argument from me.

I don't think length is the problem with King of Limbs. I just think it needs one track that peaks a little more. It's short one bigger track.
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On the other hand, I could live without Nude, House of Cards and Videotape, which I find to all be varying degrees of terrible. And would be happier if it were just 7 songs long? Possibly. It goes both ways.
House of Cards is the worst song on the album, just too long for such a meandering sound. I don't mind it, though.

Videotape is gorgeous, though, you shut your mouth.
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I still find "House of Cards" intoxicating. Beautiful sounds going on there. And I feel the exact opposite about "Videotape." That and "Jigsaw" make IR go out on a whimper.
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