R.E.M. - upcoming album 'Collapse Into Now' / General Discussion

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and i'm trying to find a way to logically compare "that someone is you" to...that pearl jam song stone gossard sings. i'm blanking on the title, and not reasoning better than an abstract "it reminds me of that song for some reason." hmm.
 
Mankind, off No Code? One of the best on that album IMO.

That song is amazing. And though I like the R.E.M. song, it's nowhere near that good.
 
Mankind, off No Code? One of the best on that album IMO.

That song is amazing. And though I like the R.E.M. song, it's nowhere near that good.

yeah. mankind.

and yes, mankind is an amazing song. one of the reasons no code will forever rank as my #1 favorite PJ album. and you're also right that the rem song isn't nowhere near as good. i'm still trying to pinpoint exactly why it reminded me of mankind, though.
 
Mankind is indeed amazing, I love that final straight of No Code. Around The Bend is an especially pleasant closer.
 
listening to mankind to figure out what i'm talking about. because they don't actually sound similar, at all. i think it's honestly just the way, towards the end of their respective albums, both songs take the tracklisting in a very different vocals/tempo direction for one song and one song only, before reverting to what sounds like [rem or pj] songs again. we're talking two very distinct bands, distinct singers, and even when not every song sounds alike from either band, you hear a pearl jam song or an rem song, and you know it's pearl jam or rem. no one has to tell you that. mankind clearly has the advantage here, obviously being sung by gossard instead of vedder. but there's something about stipe's vocals that strikes me as different than any other rem song i can think of. i'm kinda caffiene-deprived at the moment and my brain is slightly foggy, so if you can direct me to something it resembles, laz, i would appreciate it. because i'd like to not be comparing these two songs based on that vague bit of weirdness.
 
I had to hunt one of my old posts down because I lost a custom playlist I made for Automatic for the People when I changed computers.

I wrote a fairly long explanation of my tracklisting, and thought maybe that some people who didn't see it when I originally posted it almost 4(!) years ago might be interested in checking it out.

I've done a few other custom arrangements before (Use Your Illusion, Let It Be, Shuttle & Bum), but this is the one I'm most proud of.

Anyway:

http://www.u2interference.com/forums/f287/album-experiment-automatic-for-the-people-178503.html


EDIT: I'm still quite proud of my argument against Drive in the #1 spot, especially when it has such fervent supporters.
 
cool. i didn't see that at the time. i think i was m.i.a. from these parts for most of 2007. i think my biggest issue with drive is that i've heard it too many times to the point that i downright can't stand the song anymore. it wasn't exactly one of my favorites ever to begin with, and i'm pretty much in agreement with your take on its poor placement as an album opener.

it's funny, reading through that makes me 1) need to hear sidewinder NAOZ because i friggin love that song, but more importantly 2) wonder why i always tend to rank automatic almost at the very bottom of my list anytime i consider what would be rem's best albums. there are so many fantastic songs on it, why the hate? maybe it's the simple overplayed factor. i did used to listen to the radio quite a lot, especially back when i finally decided rem didn't suck. i remember when i decided rem didn't suck, actually. i distinctly remember being 14, standing in my grandmother's dining room with my radio, and realizing "it's the end of the world..." was a good song. oddly enough, i was at my grandma's house when i decided rem sucked as well, when i was 11 and she saved an article in the paper about the beatles anthology that had a sidebar of quotes from various well-known artists, the only one being...haha, i found it. yay google: "I've always referred to the Beatles as elevator music because that's exactly what they were. I've never sat down and listened to a Beatles record from beginning to end. Those guys didn't mean a (expletive deleted) thing to me.'' which, for me when i was 11, was blasphemy. nevermind that i'd never heard an rem album at the time, and couldn't have named a single song of theirs. but i decided if this stipe character hated the beatles, then his band must suck. bomac thinks i'm close-minded now? he should have met me when i was a kid. but anyway. in addition to being all set with "drive" for the rest of my life, all the singles on that album were incredibly overplayed, still seem to be overplayed even though i rarely ever listen to the radio now. whereas i don't get that with any other single from any other album, even though it's highly likely that i've heard WTFK or driver 8 just as many, if not more than anything off ATFP.
 
That Someone is You may be a slight song, but rhyming "Sharon Stone, Casino / Scarface, Al Pacino / '74 Torino" is pretty damn impressive and entertaining.
 
Why is it that R.E.M.'s fan base has dwindled to nearly nothing, meanwhile fellow 80s band Bon Jovi are still very popular and packing arenas. I think the real reason R.E.M. aren't touring this album is because they can't draw a decent crowd in most parts of the world anymore. It's sad because they're such a great live band with such a rich legacy.
 
R.E.M. has a history of not always touring their new albums, even Automatic for the People didn't have a tour. However they also occasionally tour without a new album, and the Accelerate tour did well even in the US & they still draw big crowds in Europe, so no I don't think that's the case.
 
Why is it that R.E.M.'s fan base has dwindled to nearly nothing, meanwhile fellow 80s band Bon Jovi are still very popular and packing arenas. I think the real reason R.E.M. aren't touring this album is because they can't draw a decent crowd in most parts of the world anymore. It's sad because they're such a great live band with such a rich legacy.

they've still got a fanbase- just not the size they had during the OOT and Automatic era

I know in the UK last time round they played stadiums (well tried to)- i think they're a great live band in small venues- they were brilliant at Brixton in 2003 and again at Hammersmith in 2005- but stadium shows?? not great in that environment

much as I liked Accelerate I was not going to Twickenham to see them plod through MOTM, LMR and Everybody Bores for the millionth time. I know other REM fans who made the same decision I did- shame given that the set lists were generally very good

They moved the Millenium Stadium show to Cardiff Indoor Arena due to poor ticket sales
 
I think the size of this thread and amount of people it pulled out of the woodwork who never normally post in Bang and Clatter speaks to their remaining popularity. Sure, they aren't all over the radio and TV anymore, but U2 and Bon Jovi aren't either.
 
I think the size of this thread and amount of people it pulled out of the woodwork who never normally post in Bang and Clatter speaks to their remaining popularity. Sure, they aren't all over the radio and TV anymore, but U2 and Bon Jovi aren't either.

:up: agreed
 
That's amazing.

Does anyone know offhand how this debuted on the Billboard charts? Obviously not #1 or we'd have heard about it but I'm curious if it at least made the top 5.
 
Fine, I looked it up myself.

It debuted at #5. Didnt look for the actual sales numbers but I imagine anything in 6 figures has to be considered a success at this point.
 
Ouch.

And Headache, I'm not really sure what your point is, as I wouldn't call Collapse some kind of adventurous/uncompromising album. It's more like a tour of their entire career.

What you're saying would have applied a lot more to Monster or Up.
 
lazarus said:
Ouch.

And Headache, I'm not really sure what your point is, as I wouldn't call Collapse some kind of adventurous/uncompromising album. It's more like a tour of their entire career.

What you're saying would have applied a lot more to Monster or Up.

Who said adventurous is always good? Mature works just fine.
 

This is awesome, and I guarantee that a lot of alcohol (most likely wine) was involved in this event.

I can picture Bono and Stipe sitting at a fancy Italian restaurant in NYC, getting smashed on wine, maybe Stipe makes some off-hand remark about how R.E.M. can't sell as many albums as U2 or something, and Bono's drunk ass goes and starts giving them away on the street. Great shit.
 
Why can you not imagine people doing anything without alcohol involved, GAF?
 
Yeah, for some reason all of my U2/R.E.M. New York City restaurant fan fiction involves Stipe and Bono chugging expensive red wine.
 
why do all people who photograph boner think we really want yet another picture of the man's tonsils?
 
that's probably the first lance's mom joke that i've actually found funny. it always seems like a "you had to be there from the start of the joke" thing to me.
 
Be here now.

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