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Old 03-09-2011, 05:51 PM   #646
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I really like how Oh My Heart answers Houston, so if that makes me corny for liking it, so be it.
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Old 03-09-2011, 06:24 PM   #647
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Yes, it does.

Stipe's been getting way too meta and self-referential with his writing, and combined with the flat-out self-stealing it doesn't go down very well. When The Beatles did this, it was clever. This isn't.
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Old 03-09-2011, 07:17 PM   #648
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Yet you loved Sing for the Submarine, the lyrics of which are essentially made up of references to R.E.M. titles? I mean it's a pretty cool song and all (though I dislike the vocals), but your enjoyment of it just seems kind of incongruous with your criticism of Stipe of late.

Unless it was someone else that was talking about that song recently in which case I preemptively apologize, .
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Old 03-09-2011, 08:39 PM   #649
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Oh My Heart is also one of the only songs on the album that feels like it comes across with any real sense of sincerity or from a place of artistic truth, misguided though the writing may be.
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Yet you loved Sing for the Submarine, the lyrics of which are essentially made up of references to R.E.M. titles? I mean it's a pretty cool song and all (though I dislike the vocals), but your enjoyment of it just seems kind of incongruous with your criticism of Stipe of late.

Unless it was someone else that was talking about that song recently in which case I preemptively apologize, .

That was me, I think it's the best song on Accelerate.

I don't have a problem with the device itself, but when it starts getting overused? Then it's a problem. And as I said, the straight-up ripoffs just compound the issue.
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Old 03-09-2011, 10:21 PM   #651
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Just completed my 3rd listen of the album. I don't get all the hate, I absolutely love it. It's such a great, well rounded record, showcasing a lot of their strong points. Ok, it's not incredibly original, but I don't feel like they're treading water with this album. Sometimes his self referencing is annoying, yes, but I've never heard a perfect album. Not even by everybody's precious Beatles.

After being let down this past few weeks by both Radiohead and Liam Gallagher, it's great to hear an album by one of my favorite artists that I really like. I respect that some of you don't like it, but to me it really speaks. I'm so sad they aren't touring this album. I missed the Accelerate tour because the nearest show to me was Chicago.. Haven't seen them since 2004. If they take a couple years to record their next album and tour again, it could very well be 2014 before I see them again. TEN YEARS!! AH!
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I think it's really good. When I finally got to Blue, I just laughed. The fuck is that?

Oh My Heart is okay. I'm probably giving it extra credit because I'm a sucker for a song in waltz time, particularly from REM.

Am happy that I like it upon first listen.
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Oh My Heart is okay. I'm probably giving it extra credit because I'm a sucker for a song in waltz time, particularly from REM.

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I've listened to the album three times now and, while I think that it isn't "bad" album, it's just not very interesting/exciting to me, it doesn't kick into any kind of gear until the last third of the album for me. And REM albums are not usually "growers", so I probably won't be going back to it much, like I do with Accelerate and the 80s/90s albums.
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Here's a video for Alligator, Aviator, Autopilot, Antimatter.

http://pitchfork.com/tv/#/music-vide...ot-antimatter/

Stipey is lookin' old

Damn I just realized 'Collapse Into Now' fulfills the 5 album deal R.E.M. signed with Warner Bros. way back around the time New Adventures came out (1996). It was one of the biggest record contracts in history if I remember right, something like 80 million dollars. I remember thinking at the time, 'No way do they put out five more albums'...but here we are. With the end of the Warner Bros. contract, this really could be their last album I suppose. In some ways I kinda hope it is.
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me, marlon brando is the only song i don't care much for (so far)
i like how Stipe stuck to such a clear simple theme for the album
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Here's a video for Alligator, Aviator, Autopilot, Antimatter.

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With the end of the Warner Bros. contract, this really could be their last album I suppose. In some ways I kinda hope it is.
If this were their last album, I'd feel that it was a very good and fitting ending to a great career. However, I just want to see them live one more time. An REM concert is just one peg below a U2 concert for me. An entirely different experience, but such a great one. First time I saw them I was drug by my then gf to see them, and I finally "GOT" REM that night. One of the best nights of my life, honestly.
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If this were their last album, I'd feel that it was a very good and fitting ending to a great career. However, I just want to see them live one more time. An REM concert is just one peg below a U2 concert for me. An entirely different experience, but such a great one. First time I saw them I was drug by my then gf to see them, and I finally "GOT" REM that night. One of the best nights of my life, honestly.
I hear ya, but I wouldn't worry about R.E.M. retiring from touring at this point in their career. Sure, they're not touring this album, but they'll head out again at some point down the road. I don't see the Accelerate tour being their touring swan song.
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I feel like I've seen that before, but I don't remember where.


Anyway, did anyone happen to read the liner notes and notice that the "photography" is by Anton Cockijn? What a waste of that guy's talen--there's like one wide shot of the band where they're tiny figures, and then the medium shot on the cover; both smudged beyond belief. Remember when Stipe used to oversee some cool album design?

This shit makes the Atomic Serve booklet look like the Automatic For The People wooden boxed set (little insider reference there for you megafans).
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