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Old 08-30-2012, 02:32 PM   #781
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Stipe being gay didn't bother me in the slightest way. But to the typical 'merican Joe six pack, it just wasn't "COOL" or "TOUGH" or "AMERICAN" to like REM.

I was drug to an REM concert by my ex girlfriend in 03 in Cleveland, and it was one of the best shows I've ever seen. Afterward, I threw myself into a vast back catalog of extremely high quality that I was previously unaware of. By the time I saw them again in 04 in Cincy I was a well versed hardcore fan. Discovering REM's music like that in the span of a month of 2 was one of the best music listening experiences I ever had.

Also, for the record, I never said U2 didn't make great and interesting music on ATYCLB and HTDAAB. I love both albums.
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I had a friend in Nashville who was obsessed with R.E.M. from seeing them in clubs before Murmur came out but right around when Radio Free Europe was released as a single. She was like following them all over the south (what a freak, who does that?) and sent me a horrible quality cassette of one of those shows. Anyway, she told me then that the lead singer was this weird, shy, arty guy who everyone assumed was gay. Somehow this assumption amongst the early cult following did not deter their rise to fame.
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Old 08-30-2012, 02:46 PM   #783
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Afterward, I threw myself into a vast back catalog of extremely high quality that I was previously unaware of. By the time I saw them again in 04 in Cincy I was a well versed hardcore fan.
And were no doubt stunningly disappointed when they played a bunch of shit songs from Around The Sun.
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They posted this on their Facebook page today:

90 DAYS, 90 REASONS

Comments are predictable. "YOU SOCIALIST! I'm giving away all my REM records!"

Yes, because clearly they have never revealed their politics in any way, shape or form prior to this.
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Stipe being gay didn't bother me in the slightest way. But to the typical 'merican Joe six pack, it just wasn't "COOL" or "TOUGH" or "AMERICAN" to like REM.

As stated before, Stipe's "coming out" was gradual and far from the spotlight. He wasn't appearing on mainstream magazines and talk shows telling his story. So there was no "A-ha!" moment for any "Joe Sixpack" to react to in the way you're describing. Regardless, Stipe's public persona and fashion screamed gay/bisexual long before that, even at the height of their popularity.

I'll say again, watch the Shiny Happy People video and tell me what America, Fuck Yeah! country was thinking about him back in 1991.
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I was thinking, "Man, I hope he does a version of this track with a muppet instead of the lady from the B52's".
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Old 08-30-2012, 05:00 PM   #787
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I was thinking of listening to Life's Rich Pageant.
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The word "pageant" is pretty gay.

#earlyclues
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Old 08-30-2012, 05:10 PM   #789
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They declined in popularity because they were trying different things, and not following the formula that made them superstars. Monster rocked out when people expected more Automatic For The People, yet still went 4x platinum. After that, their experimentation on Hi-Fi and Up were just not albums that were going to go well with mainstream listeners, and the follow-ups to that were too fucking boring for anyone to care at that point.

This.
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New Adventures in Hi-Fi is so fucking good......
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I have always liked the line, "Dreaming of Maria Callas, whoever she is".
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Old 08-30-2012, 05:32 PM   #792
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I have always liked the song, E-bow the Letter. Seriously though. The live version with Thom Yorke is great as well. It includes some classic Thom Yorke flailing.
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I have always liked the line, "Dreaming of Maria Callas, whoever she is".

Uhh, isn't it wherever she is?
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I love how we've presumed that tough guy über american trucker hat wearing pbr drinking types EVER thought rem was cool. What. Do you think they got all in touch with their sensitive side, crying when they did karaoke to everybody hurts when automatic came out, then decided zomg that dude is gay! I will never buy their albums again!

Come on.

Of course, I don't think there's anything more flamboyantly gay than spandex and big hair, but those dudes loves them some "every rose has its thrown."
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