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Old 08-24-2015, 11:54 PM   #856
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There's a great Roger Waters quite about Phantom of the Opera. "Bastard. It probably is actionable. It really is! But I think that life's too long to bother with suing Andrew fucking Lloyd Webber."
This is a good line. I had no idea this was a thing, but Phantom of the Opera immediately came to mind when I heard Echoes.
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Old 08-24-2015, 11:59 PM   #857
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Yeah, that guitar part in Echoes was really good. I'll revisit the grades when I have finished with their discography. It helps having a context of the artist's overall work. But yeah, I think most of the songs here are pretty good to great, but it was really a matter of flow (which I think is pretty crucial for a group putting out long suites and known for their ambition).

Yeah I know what you mean. Flow is kinda crucial when there's only a handful of songs on an album

You're really getting to the good stuff now. What albums had you heard prior to this?


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Old 08-25-2015, 12:01 AM   #858
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There's a great Roger Waters quite about Phantom of the Opera. "Bastard. It probably is actionable. It really is! But I think that life's too long to bother with suing Andrew fucking Lloyd Webber."
He also has some words for Lloyd Weber in "It's a Miracle" from his album Amused to Death: something about an earthquake striking during a concert and the piano lid smashing "his fucking fingers."
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Old 08-25-2015, 12:05 AM   #859
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Yeah I know what you mean. Flow is kinda crucial when there's only a handful of songs on an album

You're really getting to the good stuff now. What albums had you heard prior to this?


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I really love Animals and Wish You Were Here. I like Dark Side of the Moon. Don't recall the last time I've listened to The Wall in its entirety. I think that's it. I'm looking forward to revisiting them now that I now their early work.
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Old 08-25-2015, 12:24 AM   #860
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I adore Meddle. It's a 5 for me. I get that two tracks are a bit weaker and out of place, but if 40 minutes of a 46 minute album is a 5, it's a 5. Any one of those other four songs would be among the best on the previous albums. What's left over is goofy but enjoyable.
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Meddle is phenomenal.

I love the crowd chanting at the end of Fearless. And it's not just random, they're singing "You'll Never Walk Alone", an old show tune.
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Old 08-25-2015, 01:40 AM   #862
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It's taken from a soccer game, though. Surely more people associate it with Liverpool than Rodgers and Hammerstein.
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Old 08-25-2015, 09:03 AM   #863
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Yeah, pretty sure most people associate You'll Never Walk Alone with the Anfield crowd more than anything else these days.
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Only thing I associate it with is U2....


I was thinking a few weeks back about making a second attempt at going through their discography. I started a LONG time ago and never quite finished, but this revival of conversation has me tempted. I've long said that I'm more of a fan of The Wall than I am of Pink Floyd, but I've noticed that's begun changing in the last few years, and I have no problem encouraging more love for the band as a whole.
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Old 08-31-2015, 09:22 AM   #865
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Having listened to Meddle again, I’m increasing my rating to 4/5.

This was obviously a very good stretch of albums. Perhaps a couple more good ones coming up.

Obscured by Clouds (3.5/5)

Nice little surprise. I had no idea this even existed, and it was quite good. More focused than the More soundtrack, and the guitars are coming more and more upfront. It sounds a bit as a transition record, as some of the more pastoral and folk sounds are still present at times, but you can hear they are getting ready for the big things yet to come, including lyrically.

Dark Side of the Moon (4.5/5)

This is the quintessential album that I admire more than I love (although I still like it a good deal). It has impeccable production, fantastic flow, and some great songs (Time is my favorite, but the Brain Damage/Eclipse duo is amazing too). That little transition between Speak to Me/Breathe and On The Run shakes me every single time. But… and I don’t know how to express it well, I feel DSOTM leaves me wanting something more, which I can only find in the next two albums. It doesn’t completely click on an emotional level. This is not very helpful as a description, I know, but to me, everything comes together for Pink Floyd over Wish You Were Here and Animals. Those are the two albums from their catalogue that I go back to, and that I would send to space if I had to preserve it for future generations (why can’t I send the whole discography on a thumb drive, though? Such a passé metaphor).

Wish You Were Here (5/5)

I don’t necessarily enjoy all of Wish You Were Here – it loses me at a couple of moments, especially the vocals in Welcome to the Machine. But it’s still a wonderful album. I think the personal nature of some of the songs – the title track and Shine On Your Crazy Diamond, but also the tirades against the music industry – makes it their most touching record. Wish You Were Here (the song) may be totally overplayed, but it is the perfect song. The most approachable Pink Floyd has ever been, without compromising on quality. The lyrics have some great imagery (“ your heroes for ghosts / hot ashes for trees / hot air for a cold breeze / cold comfort for a change” is a beautiful sequence). And there’s a reason that guitar riff is iconic.

Animals (5/5)

This is clearly my favorite Pink Floyd album. There are other 5/5 records in their discography (or another one, according to my silly ratings), but Animals has an emotional appeal to me that is head and shoulders above the rest. I like the concept, I like the sound and I like the songs. Dogs is probably my favorite Pink Floyd song, as it contains a little of everything that I enjoy in the band. Great guitars, the fierce lyrics and the imagery. Case in point:

And after a while, you can work on points for style
Like the club tie, and the firm handshake
A certain look in the eye and an easy smile
You have to be trusted by the people that you lie to
So that when they turn their backs on you
You'll get the chance to put the knife in


Bonus points for a great album cover, too. The factory photo, but also the general bleakness of the lyrics, makes me think of this record as a soundtrack to an Antonioni film. Red Desert, for example.

Also, no saxophones.
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That just looks wrong.
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Old 09-13-2015, 04:21 PM   #868
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I saw Gilmour yesterday. Fantastic show. It's stunning that he's almost 70 years old. Great atmosphere at the Roman amphitheatre in Pula, pretty good choice of songs and a good crowd.
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Anyone heard the new Gilmour album? Let me spare you the trouble. You know it's bad when the best song is a Frank Sinatra pastiche about ballroom dancing.
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