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Old 08-21-2015, 09:38 PM   #826
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When I was younger, I knew a lot of PF fans and no one ever expressed anything but good things for Great Gig. This is actually the first time I've heard such hatred for the song. Many years ago, I dated a lady who was a PF fan too and we used to listen to DOS during our "romantic time". When we got to Great Gig, we'd push the romance into the next gear. Good times!
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I'm not entirely sure why I decided to listen to this one, as it could conceivably be left off the list, but it's generally included as a studio album. Very forgettable, but not unpleasant. It works as background music (well, it's a soundtrack, so it should work as background music). Nile Song was my favorite thing here. But yeah, I won't listen to it again.
DUUUUUUUUUUUDE. Cymbaline. Fucking beautiful.
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Old 08-21-2015, 10:18 PM   #828
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Cymbaline instantly makes More worth at least a 3/5.
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Nah, Cymbaline is a good song, but it's far better in a live context, where they added a guitar solo, an organ solo and then some tape loops. It's similar to The Embryo, where the studio version is a hint at how good of a song it is, and the live versions demonstrate this potential.

I like More, but most of it is incidental music without a massive amount of substance, and the songs that worked the best on that album (such as Green Is The Colour, Cymbaline and Main Theme) were vastly improved on live.

I think it also makes more sense when you understand the context of The Man and The Journey, and how pieces from that concept piece were extracted for use in More and Ummagumma.
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Old 08-21-2015, 11:46 PM   #830
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I find the live versions of Cymbaline overly bombastic and they lose some of that melancholy, acid-fried atmosphere that makes the whole soundtrack worth a listen.

That being said, I totally get why others would prefer the live versions and am quite fond of them myself. It's like comparing the In Rainbows version of Videotape to the pre-release live versions that were WAY more expansive.
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Old 08-21-2015, 11:50 PM   #831
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Yeah, I think putting a guitar solo in the middle of the track is a bit much; it probably could have sufficed being the relaxed song it was in the studio, then transitioning to B minor with Wright's organ solo and into the tape section.

It's too bad this is incomplete and doesn't include The Embryo at the ending, but this is a great "piece" they never recorded for an album.

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Are there listenable bootlegs of live Cymbaline out there? Most of the stuff I have tried to hear from that era is barely discernible as live music.
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This is the best version I've heard available online:

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Are there listenable bootlegs of live Cymbaline out there? Most of the stuff I have tried to hear from that era is barely discernible as live music.
Here's a video! (tw: dailymotion)

Pink Floyd - Cymbaline (Extended Version) Live KQED TV 1970 - Remastered - Vìdeo Dailymotion
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That's a way better version than the one I found.
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Ah shit that is cool. Love the organ in there. Rick Wright FTW. Thanks for sharing.
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I have only ever had that Concertgebouw version, thanks Liam

Interesting how all of them have always looked 60 years old.
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Although listening to both I prefer the Concertgebouw version, it doesn't nearly stop entirely musically through the middle.
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Old 08-23-2015, 12:39 PM   #840
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DUUUUUUUUUUUDE. Cymbaline. Fucking beautiful.
Alright, fair enough. Went back to it and it is a good song indeed. But it's lost in the middle of a pretty nondescript album, in my opinion. It barely caught my attention when I listened to the whole thing for the first time.
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