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Old 06-23-2008, 01:45 AM   #46
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I think I'm the one person here who would rate Wowee Zowee dead last out of their albums. Don't get me wrong, it has some fantastic songs I love, but I just find myself listening to it far less than anything else they've done. It's a bit too disjointed and all over for me. Granted, they're not a band with the most cohesive albums ever, but I find this one particularly lacks focus in any certain direction. While I don't mind that kind of thing in and of itself, I find it distracting with Wowee Zowee for some reason.

I probably have weird Pavement tastes though, as sometimes I think Brighten the Corners is my favorite record of theirs.
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Old 06-23-2008, 02:09 AM   #47
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I hear ya, but there is just something about Wowee Zowee that I find irresistible. It has a certain charm to it...I don't know if I can articulate it well but yeah...

I also think that WZ features the best guitar playing that the band put on record.
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Old 06-23-2008, 10:05 AM   #48
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Maybe, GAF. The solo in Grounded is certainly one of SM's finer moments, and that spaced-out jam in Half A Canyon is as well. But I think Brighten the Corners has some pretty amazing work, especially that long solo that closes out the album on Fin, and the work on Old To Begin and Type Slowly.

It's a tough call.
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Old 06-23-2008, 04:49 PM   #49
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I think a lot of "modern indie" fans have a hard time getting into Pavement because they're expecting it to sound like what popular indie music is today.
I listened before I was into indie and didn't get it.

Then I listened after and didn't get it but loved Malkmus's solo work.

Then I gave it a third and quite like them now although I don't really consider them to have any classic albums. Anyway, I think you're sorta on the right page in that the production values are weaker than what we're accustomed to. Belle & Sebastian was really the one that upped the ante and showed that you could make albums for cheaper than the majors and have them sound really expansive and others like The Decemberists followed in their baroque pop footsteps. Frankly, I think Pavement is about on par with The Clash's London Calling for me. I know I would've loved it more had I been there at the time and not heard what came after. That album and the work of Pavement can be heard in so many artists since that the albums aren't revelatory unless they're some of the first ones you listen to. People whose first band they get into is The Clash (actually one of my favorite bands) and Pavement tend to rate them in high regard for the rest of their lives.
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I really dug Crooked Rain almost the same way I dug The Pixies' Doolittle when I first heard it, which is now one of my favorite albums. Both had that rock edge with a slight pop sheen that makes me go ga-ga.

If this is any indicator, then I'd chalk up Pavement as another band the B&C'ers have gotten me into.
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Double post.
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Your conversion is worth the double post, buddy.

Now, back to the Gold Soundz with you.
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You're the kind of girl I like
'Cause you're empty, and I'm empty




I wanted to join in the Crooked Crooked love.

By the way, LeMac, is that the grim reaper of pop in your avatar?
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Since I've been admitting things in other threads today, I'll admit that my exposure to Pavement basically has been nil. I guess I ought to give 'em a try?
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Since I've been admitting things in other threads today, I'll admit that my exposure to Pavement basically has been nil. I guess I ought to give 'em a try?
Crooked Rain could become your new best friend.


will be disappointed, but he'll get over it.
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You're the kind of girl I like
'Cause you're empty, and I'm empty




I wanted to join in the Crooked Crooked love.

By the way, LeMac, is that the grim reaper of pop in your avatar?
Naw, it's Jimmy Stewart during the dream sequence in Vertigo.

T.O. returns.
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You're the kind of girl I like
'Cause you're empty, and I'm empty




I wanted to join in the Crooked Crooked love.

By the way, LeMac, is that the grim reaper of pop in your avatar?
Those are some of my favorite Pavement lyrics but my favorite part of that verse is actually the line that precedes the ones you posted...

So drunk in the August sun...
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I didn't think you'd like alcohol-related lyrics, for whatever reason.
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Naw, it's Jimmy Stewart during the dream sequence in Vertigo.

T.O. returns.
Ha, it still totally looks like Morrissey to me.



I still am not sure if Carrot Rope is a horrifyingly disturbing song or not, and I've been wondering since the damn album was released.
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So, fucking jack-asses, take the hint and tell me which album to start with. Jesus.
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