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Old 02-13-2008, 10:44 AM   #61
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Shit, Timbaland and Timberlake? It's gotta be good.

Although supposedly it's gonna be more hip-hop influenced, which would put it sonically closest to Bedtime Stories.

Hopefully it's more Don't Stop and I'd Rather Be Your Lover than Forbidden Love & Take a Bow.
I loathe Timbaland with a passion. He might the most overrated producer ever. However, Justin Timberlake is brilliant, so I'm looking forward to anything he and Madonna have worked on. I'm nervous about this album because she seems to be working with the most popular music producers of the day (I think Pharrell is involved too) who are partially responsible for the shit in the Top 40 right now. However, I also know that Madonna doesn't take crap from anybody and even her producers are basically under her creative control. If the album is more "Bedtime Stories" oriented I'll be thrilled. If it's Fergie-oriented, I'll shoot myself in the face.
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Old 02-13-2008, 10:51 AM   #62
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I remember when Music came out, and when Gone came on I couldn't believe what I was hearing.

That CHORUS.
I adore that song! I love her acoustically "Intervention", "Nothing Fails", "X-Static Process", and "Love Profusion" are all prime examples of that.

Here's an awesome live version of "Nothing Fails".



and then there's this version from Re-Invention, but the quality is not as good
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Old 02-13-2008, 11:01 AM   #63
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Yeah, she has improved a ton. I have a difficult time listening to the first couple of records now because I've grown accustomed to the deeper Ray of Light/Music era material. Plus, it just sounds better to me.
She definitely has. That's a result of the vocal training she had for Evita. She's said that she was only using half of her range before that and didn't know it. I do like the roughness on the first couple albums though. She's apparently always hated the studio vocals on "Like A Virgin" to which I would agree. She's always sung it much better live.

Here's an example from the Virgin Tour, which was her first.



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Old 02-13-2008, 11:05 AM   #64
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I remember when the first album came out. Was working at a record store in L.A. at the time. And then all the young girls would come in, trying to dress like her

I have the first LP here somewhere. Liked the hits, like bonocomet mentioned. And many songs over the years, though I've never listened to full albums

One of my faves is Don't Tell Me
Holiday
Borderline
Express Yourself
Lucky Star
Ray Of Light
Music
Beautiful Stranger
Burning Up

Maybe I should check out more of her stuff
I personally think you should.
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Old 02-13-2008, 11:40 AM   #65
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I personally think you should.
I had no idea you would say that. At all.
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Old 02-13-2008, 12:33 PM   #66
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I rated Madonna's albums on another forum in a thread about rating albums. I have all her albums, so here it goes:

American Life // 9.0/10
Like A Prayer // 8.7/10
I'm Breathless (etc) // 8.6/10
Ray Of Light // 8.4/10
Confessions On A Dancefloor // 8.4/10
Erotica // 8.0/10
Music // 7.8/10
Bedtime Story // 7.5/10
True Blue // 7.2/10
Madonna/The First Album // 6.6/10
Like A Virgin // 6.0/10

others:
You Can Dance // 6.4/10
The Immaculate Collection // 8.2/10
Something To Remember // 7.5/10
Evita // 8.0/10
Greatest Hits Vol.2 // 7.5/10
I'm Going To Tell You A Secret // 7.3/10
The Confessions Tour (bonus disc) // 7.5/10

Madonna IS the perfect icon for the contemporaneous popular culture, from the last quarter of century of the XXth and the beggining of the present one.
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Old 02-13-2008, 12:36 PM   #67
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"Something To Remember" is my love just because it has the wonderful and perfect "This Used To Be My Playground" on it. It also has one of her best pre-Evita vocals on the little-known and awesome "One More Chance"
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After the snippets and unfisinshed versions of new songs... I am afraid that Madonna fell in disgrace and that these partnerships with Timbaland/Timberlake/Pharell are gonna make a forced-pop-hiphop-sound, which will eventually break the continuous string of 4 great albums she released since "Ray Of Light".
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I always make an effort to not listen to these snippets and early versions of songs. A lot can change before the album comes out, so I don't want to judge based on those little soundbites.
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I always make an effort to not listen to these snippets and early versions of songs. A lot can change before the album comes out, so I don't want to judge based on those little soundbites.
Well, I do.
"Candy Shop" with or without changes is gonna turn into a ridiculous song for a 50 yr-old... girl. The lyrics are way too bad. Madonna wanted sexual metaphors? "Where Life Begins" is a great example of how it can succeed. "Candy Shop" is far from that quality stream lyrically.

From the snippets I heard of "4 Minutes To Save The World" and "The Beat Goes On"... I'm sorry, but they don't seem to be great pop songs as Madonna had been writting.

I hope I am wrong but I predict that this album can disappoint me instead of celebrating Madonna's half-century age.
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I like Something to Remember if only because it has You'll See on it, which I love. The video was a sequel to the Take a Bow video ... I think. Wasn't it?

Oh, and I have to give a for the Power of Goodbye video, with Goran Visjnic. Yum.

The more I think about Bedtime Stories, there ARE a good number of songs on it I like. I mean, it's got great singles: Secret, Take a Bow, Human Nature, Bedtime Stories ... it's everything else that always struck me as bland.
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I loved Nothing Really Matters
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Well, I do.
"Candy Shop" with or without changes is gonna turn into a ridiculous song for a 50 yr-old... girl. The lyrics are way too bad. Madonna wanted sexual metaphors? "Where Life Begins" is a great example of how it can succeed. "Candy Shop" is far from that quality stream lyrically.

From the snippets I heard of "4 Minutes To Save The World" and "The Beat Goes On"... I'm sorry, but they don't seem to be great pop songs as Madonna had been writting.

I hope I am wrong but I predict that this album can disappoint me instead of celebrating Madonna's half-century age.
Well, I'm definitely not thrilled about Timbaland and Pharell (but I think Justin Timberlake is great), but I'm just reserving judgement until the album comes out. She could re-write some songs or take some off and add new ones before then. We don't know how old these snippets are either. They could be from the earlier stages of recording, so I guess we'll see. I'm worried about the album though too.
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I loved Nothing Really Matters
I love that song. The video was so unique. Did you ever see her Grammy performance of it?

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I like Something to Remember if only because it has You'll See on it, which I love. The video was a sequel to the Take a Bow video ... I think. Wasn't it?

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Yes. I always loved both of those videos.
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