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Old 02-08-2009, 01:05 PM   #121
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The important thing is to feel it, though. That's why the band's eloquence feels so brilliant--they take the burden from your shoulders, so that you can just feel it.
Good point.

I'm 38. Good fucking lord. Seriously, what the fuck?
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You've got ten years on me, then, Laz. It overjoys me that not everybody stops caring about art, once they get into the mid-30s. It really does. I went with my girlfriend's 60-year-old father to a My Bloody Valentine show, in September. Amazing. I want to be like that guy.

I wonder, though...do the band's lyrics resonate as pointedly with you as they do with me? Or, failing that (since you're not a psycho and probably wouldn't've been unable to sleep, all night, after being so jazzed), do that at least resonate pointedly? I mention very briefly, in the review, the impotence of the word "universal," and this is what interests me. I mean, clearly...this band is very, very, very young. Just out of uni. They're writing about their own; in fact, people who're already several years younger than I am, suddenly! For somebody who didn't go to high school with a LiveJournal or a Xanga or a Facebook, I wonder what all the beautiful words mean, to you.

I'm NOT saying that they shouldn't mean anything. Not at all. Like I said, these kids are younger than I am, and it still works. I just wonder how you approach this stuff, from a little bit closer to another generation. I think that the band, itself, sort of lives out of time...I mean, they are highly nostalgic for things which pre-date their lives/interests in music. C90, riot grrrl, third-wave feminism, etc.. What say you? Music aside, from where does the emotional pull come? And how does it all function, for you?

Same to you, NSW.

Edit: Actually, fuck that. Same to everybody. I'm sure that somebody in here is several years younger than I am. I'm curious about all y'all's thoughts.
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Well, I can relate to that stuff because I've always had younger friends. I've moved around a lot and always wind up falling into same type of crowd. And even though I've been in Los Angeles for almost 10 years, my friends have changed over that time, and most of my friends now are 25 or younger. So I'm not really out of that mentality completely.

Believe me, without the lyrics I wouldn't be this huge of a fan, because I like that kind of meta, self-referential, insider music fan stuff. And what I love is that even though it's very Malkmus-inspired writing, it bears a broken heart that SM rarely let you get a glimpse at, if ever.
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Old 02-08-2009, 01:49 PM   #124
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Since moving to Chicago, I've made a lot of younger friends, simply because I work with a lot of people 27 and under. Not that such a thing influences my musical choices (if anything, interference users have greater impact on that), but it helps give me glimpses into the thought processes of those younger me, albeit from a small sample size. But I don't think I could make younger friends if I myself did not have a mindset that jived with theirs. I mean, there are certain viewpoints and thoughts that only experience can shape, but the foundations of how I think are still in place, and those foundations more closely resemble the thoughts of a younger crowd than my own peers, especially in the professional environment I inhabit. To be fair, the advent of Facebook or LiveJournal lends itself to a sort of myopic point of view that I don't always relate to, as I'm a bit global in my thoughts....and while not immune to self-analysis (I suffer from it, if anything), my world never has and never will revolve strictly around me.....so there is that occasional gap. But overall, I've not reached the point where I relate with the married with kids and a mortgage mindset. That's why my age blows my mind, but, that's a whole other topic and I'll spare you.

So, while their lyrics do not resonate with me quite as powerfully as they resonate with you, IYS, they certainly hit home in many instances, and that would help explain my affinity for the band. There's a wisdom there that belies their age, and there's emotion to be felt throughout, at least for me.

As for age impacting art, I find that to be a confusing phenomenon as it pertains to music. I know plenty of people my age who listen to 80's music only, and that's fine, I guess. But, it's not like they only watch 80's films, or read only 80's books. Their tastes in film, TV, literature, if it exists, has not stagnated. Music seems to suffer more from this than any other artistic medium, and I don't really understand why. The thrill of "discovering" Los Campesinos, The National, Okkervil River, TV on the Radio, Fleet Foxes, Elbow, Doves, etc, over the past few years is something I'll chase for many years to come. And, yeah, as I grow older it's possible that I'll be challenged to relate to the lyrics, but that has yet to happen.

Hope that makes sense.
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Absolutely. Wonderful posts. Thanks. For realz.
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Since moving to Chicago, I've made a lot of younger friends, simply because I work with a lot of people 27 and under. Not that such a thing influences my musical choices (if anything, interference users have greater impact on that), but it helps give me glimpses into the thought processes of those younger me, albeit from a small sample size. But I don't think I could make younger friends if I myself did not have a mindset that jived with theirs. I mean, there are certain viewpoints and thoughts that only experience can shape, but the foundations of how I think are still in place, and those foundations more closely resemble the thoughts of a younger crowd than my own peers, especially in the professional environment I inhabit. To be fair, the advent of Facebook or LiveJournal lends itself to a sort of myopic point of view that I don't always relate to, as I'm a bit global in my thoughts....and while not immune to self-analysis (I suffer from it, if anything), my world never has and never will revolve strictly around me.....so there is that occasional gap. But overall, I've not reached the point where I relate with the married with kids and a mortgage mindset. That's why my age blows my mind, but, that's a whole other topic and I'll spare you.

So, while their lyrics do not resonate with me quite as powerfully as they resonate with you, IYS, they certainly hit home in many instances, and that would help explain my affinity for the band. There's a wisdom there that belies their age, and there's emotion to be felt throughout, at least for me.

As for age impacting art, I find that to be a confusing phenomenon as it pertains to music. I know plenty of people my age who listen to 80's music only, and that's fine, I guess. But, it's not like they only watch 80's films, or read only 80's books. Their tastes in film, TV, literature, if it exists, has not stagnated. Music seems to suffer more from this than any other artistic medium, and I don't really understand why. The thrill of "discovering" Los Campesinos, The National, Okkervil River, TV on the Radio, Fleet Foxes, Elbow, Doves, etc, over the past few years is something I'll chase for many years to come. And, yeah, as I grow older it's possible that I'll be challenged to relate to the lyrics, but that has yet to happen.

Hope that makes sense.
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You bunch of old fucks.
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Old 02-09-2009, 12:12 AM   #128
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Currently listening to Hold on Now, Youngster, the old school demo collection, from back before they were signed. Really good, even before they got super-serious and brought in middleweight producers, and shit. Still sounds so refreshing...!
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In the shadow, THE HISTORIAN gets shiv'd.
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Just got an e-mail announcing more dates.


'Sup dudes?

All's good in the LC! hood. With less than a week to go on our current 'right hand side of the US tour' with Titus Andronicus, we are a little maudlin, because it's been the funnest time ever, but there is light, because we today have the pleasure of announcing West Coast/ Mexico/Canadian dates.

As follows:
March 6 - Mexico City, MX @ Lunario Nacional
March 7 - Guadalajara, MX @ Teatro Estudio Cavaret
March 29 - Philadelphia, PA @ Theatre of Living Arts
March 30 - Burlington, VT @ Higher Ground
March 31 - Montreal, PQ @ La Sala Rosa
April 1 - Toronto, ON @ Opera House
April 2 - Detroit, MI @ Magic Stick
April 3 - Milwaukee, WI @ Turner Hall
April 4 - Minneapolis, MN @ Fine Line Café
April 5 - Omaha, NE @ Waiting Room
April 7 - Denver, CO @ Bluebird Theatre
April 10 - Seattle, WA @ Neumo's
April 11 - Vancouver, BC @ Richard's on Richards
April 12 - Portland, OR @ Wonder Ballroom
April 13 - Sacramento, CA @ Harlow's
April 15 - San Francisco, CA @ Slims
April 16 - Santa Barbara, CA @ Velvet Jones
April 17 - Indio, CA @ Coachella Music Festival

Touring partners to be announced soon.

Thank you to everyone who has come to watch us and spoken to us and been generally lovely to us on the recent dates. You have been the nicest crowds we have ever had the pleasure of playing to, and we are very grateful.

I'm trying to think of some things to say to make this relevant those of you not from the places written above.

Erm, we'll probably play in the UK again some time. I'd imagine so.

THANKS!

Hang loose,

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Cheers (as someone who is a year younger than NSW - his post sums me up).

Although, I saw Doves and Elbow like eight years ago...so he is a bit behind.

Question: because of our age, we really could not be classified as indie kids. What then? Indie adolescences? Indie teens? Indie young adults?
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April 4 - Minneapolis, MN @ Fine Line Café


This spring's shaping up to be a great concert season.
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Cheers (as someone who is a year younger than NSW - his post sums me up).

Although, I saw Doves and Elbow like eight years ago...so he is a bit behind.

Question: because of our age, we really could not be classified as indie kids. What then? Indie adolescences? Indie teens? Indie young adults?
I saw Doves 8 years ago, too, hence the "over the past few years part".
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I don't want to go to Colorado, so it looks like I won't be seeing them.

Also, I don't want to read the posts about being old, because it'll probably hit far too close to home. That and because if NSW wrote it, I don't want anything to do with it.
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