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Old 09-09-2015, 08:34 PM   #406
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Yeah I think Stipe's going to need to clarify that one.

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Old 09-09-2015, 08:35 PM   #407
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Old 09-09-2015, 08:43 PM   #408
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Bit of a weak sauce official statement after all that but to Stipe


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Old 09-09-2015, 08:48 PM   #409
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Not good at putting this into words on a message board, but I'll give it a shot.
I don't agree with just about a single word Stipe has to say on politics, social issues, etc and I acknowledge that they are huge parts of him as a person and are quite blatant in his music. (Let me clarify, I don't hate Stipe as a person, just disagree) REM is still one of my all time favorite bands so I just kinda look past it and enjoy the music.
Is that how non-religious U2 fans look at U2's music and Bono specifically? Religion is clearly a major theme in almost all of their music and if you're not religious, you probably don't pick up on a lot of the biblical imagery anyway (not a slam on anyone). And I'm sure that their lyrics connect to everyone in different ways, shapes, and forms. That's the beauty of U2's music. But I'm just curious as to how non-religious U2 fans feel about their most religious music.
Again, not trying to start a fight at all, but I'm just interested how some of you guys feel about that. I don't mean to start this as a religious and political debate either.



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Old 09-09-2015, 08:59 PM   #410
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Two topics that I avoid like the plague are Religion and Politics. I don't talk about them, it just leads to pointless debating. I have no strong feelings about either subject, I'm just a man trying to live my own life and do what's best for my family.

But that has never affected how I feel about U2 or REM's music, or anybody else. A song like "40", for example, has no religious meaning to me, even though it's taken directly from the Bible. I just like it.

Siiiggghhh.... I miss REM. I know that I've got 30 years of music to listen to, but it's just not the same knowing that they called it quits and don't even seem to miss it. Stipe is very dismissive of REM's legacy, which saddens me.
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I'm always amazed at the REM Facebook posts, where it's something political, and the comments are full of "Well, I'm never listening to your music again, you liberal pinko commie!"

Like ... have you ever even HEARD the band?
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I'm always amazed at the REM Facebook posts, where it's something political, and the comments are full of "Well, I'm never listening to your music again, you liberal pinko commie!"

Like ... have you ever even HEARD the band?

We're not all like that. Heck, I was introduced to REM on the way to church camp back in high school and by my dad, a pastor. Their music is so great that I just look past it and move on. Perfect Circle is still my all time favorite song and nothing will change that.



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Its tough for the GOP to use campaign music outside of country, Kid Rock, or Sammy Hagar.

The Dems milk that COBL for all it's worth. I bet some campaign operatives are going to start bitching about it being a warhorse. haha
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Its tough for the GOP to use campaign music outside of country, Kid Rock, or Sammy Hagar.

The Dems milk that COBL for all it's worth. I bet some campaign operatives are going to start bitching about it being a warhorse. haha
Sammy would want nothing to do with the GOP. He's a good dude.


As for your second comment, funny as shit.
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Two topics that I avoid like the plague are Religion and Politics. I don't talk about them, it just leads to pointless debating. I have no strong feelings about either subject, I'm just a man trying to live my own life and do what's best for my family.

But that has never affected how I feel about U2 or REM's music, or anybody else. A song like "40", for example, has no religious meaning to me, even though it's taken directly from the Bible. I just like it.

Siiiggghhh.... I miss REM. I know that I've got 30 years of music to listen to, but it's just not the same knowing that they called it quits and don't even seem to miss it. Stipe is very dismissive of REM's legacy, which saddens me.
I'm like you. I hardly ever discuss religion and politics. U2 doesn't really seem like a religious band to me. Sure they discuss God and stuff, but they seem more spiritual. REM/Stipe have always been political and I usually agree with their views. I don't think Michael is dismissive of REM's legacy. He's just moved on from it. They had an awesome run and now he's moved on to the next phase of his life. Not everyone can be Bono and lead the rock and roll machine until the end of time. Some folks want to just retire.
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Electrolite should have been the last REM song if they wanted to go out without tarnishing their legacy. I think Up is great and I'm glad they kept going long enough to make that, but there's that one moment when everything should have ended and they went far beyond that. Honestly, Bill Berry's hemorrhage might have been it. I don't blame Michael for calling it quits, at all. I will be terribly disappointed if he does nothing else with his musical gifts though.
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Not good at putting this into words on a message board, but I'll give it a shot.
I don't agree with just about a single word Stipe has to say on politics, social issues, etc and I acknowledge that they are huge parts of him as a person and are quite blatant in his music. (Let me clarify, I don't hate Stipe as a person, just disagree) REM is still one of my all time favorite bands so I just kinda look past it and enjoy the music.
Is that how non-religious U2 fans look at U2's music and Bono specifically? Religion is clearly a major theme in almost all of their music and if you're not religious, you probably don't pick up on a lot of the biblical imagery anyway (not a slam on anyone). And I'm sure that their lyrics connect to everyone in different ways, shapes, and forms. That's the beauty of U2's music. But I'm just curious as to how non-religious U2 fans feel about their most religious music.
Again, not trying to start a fight at all, but I'm just interested how some of you guys feel about that. I don't mean to start this as a religious and political debate either.



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I'm not religious at all. I love it. I find it really compelling. Same reason I love Sufjan Stevens' music. They have both explored themes of religious questioning in their lyrics, which I find very fascinating. I much prefer the Bono who penned Wake Up Dead Man than the one who writes some of the tripe that is found on SoI.
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Reveal was pretty good. "All The Way To Reno" is one of my favorites. Accelerate is pretty good too, "Supernatural Superserious" and "Living Well Is The Best Revenge" sound like REM of old. Collapse into now was also fairly decent.
But their material through Out Of Time is almost untouchable. So in comparison, their post-Up material is garbage.


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Not good at putting this into words on a message board, but I'll give it a shot.
I don't agree with just about a single word Stipe has to say on politics, social issues, etc and I acknowledge that they are huge parts of him as a person and are quite blatant in his music. (Let me clarify, I don't hate Stipe as a person, just disagree) REM is still one of my all time favorite bands so I just kinda look past it and enjoy the music.
Is that how non-religious U2 fans look at U2's music and Bono specifically? Religion is clearly a major theme in almost all of their music and if you're not religious, you probably don't pick up on a lot of the biblical imagery anyway (not a slam on anyone). And I'm sure that their lyrics connect to everyone in different ways, shapes, and forms. That's the beauty of U2's music. But I'm just curious as to how non-religious U2 fans feel about their most religious music.
Again, not trying to start a fight at all, but I'm just interested how some of you guys feel about that. I don't mean to start this as a religious and political debate either.



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You're missing the point entirely.


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