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Old 06-21-2013, 07:34 PM   #166
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OK, someone please take that child away from them.
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Old 06-21-2013, 07:38 PM   #167
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Blue Ivy and North West both sound like porn names. Bad start for both of them.

I think they'll be in a Destiny's Child-esque girl group together at some point. North will end up being the underground one when they break up.
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Old 06-21-2013, 08:22 PM   #168
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That kids name will be the least of her problems.
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And I'll never let her hit a strip club
I learnt hard way that ain't place to get love
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Old 06-21-2013, 09:07 PM   #170
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Can't wait for Kanye and Arcade Fire to release their parenthood albums
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Old 06-23-2013, 04:03 PM   #171
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This was the soundtrack to my Vegas trip. Listened to it on the plane there and back, and we had it bumpin in the hotel room a few nights. It's nasty. I love it. Even darker, even harder. I also really like that it doesn't overstay its welcome. This is the shortest album of his career, by far, and it works. Hits you quick.

After maybe four full listens and a few other scattered listens, the only song I'm not feeling yet is Guilt Trip.

On Sight, Black Skinhead, New Slaves, I'm In It, Blood On The Leaves, and Bound 2 are all tremendous.
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Old 06-23-2013, 08:09 PM   #172
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Proof that this album is badass:



“Everybody feel a way about K but at least y'all feel something”
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:59 AM   #173
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My thoughts now I've spent a bit more time with it.

 
It's okay. I respect it more than I like it. I respect that he's in a space where he is doing what he wants, going against what people expect of him, going with the whole no promotion, no singles, no cover/booklet thing. But for me this is the first time since I've become a rabid fan (a few months after MBDTF's release) that he hasn't been able to back up his arrogance with the music.

I don't really like the production throughout. On Sight with its distorted electro. Black Skinhead has a cool tribal thing going on but it's pretty skeletal and doesn't get me pumped like Kanye's vocals do. I Am a God continues in the same vein. I was excited by New Slaves originally because we only got snippets in the projections. But the beat never really picks up, even as Kanye does. The Frank Ocean outro feels exactly that, an outro, disconnected from the song. Hold My Liquor can't even Hold My Attention, the guitar solo does absolutely nothing for me whatsoever. Rubbish guest spots from Chief Keef and Justin Vernon. Even if I like but don't really love that opening four, Hold My Liquor is still a massive bummer coming after it.

I'm In It veers dangerously close to trap. Blood on the Leaves you all love... and it's one of the better beats on the album. But it still doesn't feel like anything special to me, which is what's always set Kanye apart. I feel like it's a bit that could have been on any GOOD Music project. The last 90 seconds is totally superfluous, almost as painful as the lengthy vocoder solo in Runaway.

I like Guilt Trip quite a bit, with its dark, almost anxious beat, twisted vocoder, that twirly synth bit, and Kid Cudi ends it nicely. Send It Up flat out sucks. I'm sure it will surprise no one that Bound 2 is my favourite track on the album. After like 36 minutes of Kanye being aggressive, angry and anti-everything Bound 2 comes as a welcome relief. From his opening line he sounds like he's taken a breath and just settled down a bit. Sort of like, well the Kanye of old is still there, even if he's taking things in a different direction. Like Charlie Wilson's spot as well.

808s is the only album of his I'll take it over, and that's because I've hardly spent any time with 808s. None of the songs would rank in my top whatever Kanye songs list. I will take Cruel Summer over Yeezus without a moment's hesitation, and White Dress destroys everything on those two records and I wish someone else would acknowledge its existence.


The non tl;dr version is I'm still very underwhelmed by it and that makes me sad but overall HURRY UP WITH MY DAMN CROISSANTS makes it worth the price of admission alone.
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Old 06-30-2013, 06:49 AM   #174
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More thoughts. Sorry. Cobbler can't help it.

 
LM, with you on Guilt Trip. I'd say it and Bound 2 are my favs.

But I'm feeling a lot of what Fantano had to say about the album. Totally with him about the beat on Black Skinhead. I so wish it was heavier. I disagree that anything goes as hard as Mercy or Cold.

Lyrically... for me Kanye's at his best when the rhymes are really sharp, fast, witty (Gorgeous is probably my favourite lyric of his. One of my favourite parts of the Art of Rap doco). On Yeezus, there's some memorable humourous lines, like the aforementioned croissants, sweet and sour sauce, Bobby Boucher, etc. Love the opening line too, "Yeezy season approachin' fuck whatever y'all been hearin" and also love the lines LM quoted from Blood on the Leaves. But aside from Black Skinhead and New Slaves it's just nowhere near Watch the Throne/MBDTF.
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Old 06-30-2013, 07:40 AM   #175
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Cruel Summer over Yeezus? Good Lord no. The entire second half is garbage. First half would have made a damn good EP but literally everything else is an afterthought.

Forgot to mention that Hold My Liquor is probably in my top 3 now. I don't know what happened. The lyrics show welcome vulnerability, the guitar solo is beautiful, then there's that wonderfully atonal distorted screech that serves as a backbeat. It's not perfect but I love it to pieces.

Fantano has horrible taste in music and every point he made in his review was wrong.
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Agree Cruel Summer would have made a sick LP but still Higher, Creepers and Bliss are good tracks on the back half.
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Blood on the Leaves

holy christ can't stop with this one
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Does anyone else find "I keep it 300, like the Romans" especially funny?
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Old 07-01-2013, 03:14 PM   #179
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This album will definitely be in my year end Top 5. I LOVE it.

However, like previous albums, I'm still having problems reconciling with the misogynistic lyrics. I know we've had this discussion before, but how do others feel about that?

Also, compared to other artists out there, do you feel that Kanye gets a pass, so to speak, from critics and the public regarding his lyrics?
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Old 07-01-2013, 03:26 PM   #180
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Also, compared to other artists out there, do you feel that Kanye gets a pass, so to speak, from critics and the public regarding his lyrics?
To an extent. It hasn't always been this way, he was a pretty poignant lyricist for the first couple of albums but really started gravitating towards punchline rap with Graduation and never recovered. People think he's funny, musically creative and slightly insane so most let him off the hook, but yeah, I wouldn't mind another album of socially conscious Kanye.
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