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Old 06-24-2014, 08:53 AM   #271
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If you don't like it you don't like it, that's totally fair. His voice is an acquired taste, but I love it because it's a point of difference in a reasonably homogenous mainstream, and he has a heap of different flows. I personally love the beats all the way through, there's so many great ones, from the chill (Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe ) to the obnoxious (Backseat Freestyle, which is typical Hit-Boy) to the indie-sampling beguiling (Money Trees) to the glossy (Swimming Pools) and more. I don't focus on lyrics much either until I listen to an album a few times, but yeah, they're pretty impressive on good kid, the likes of Art of Peer Pressure and Sing About Me/Dying of Thirst in particular.

I was just a little taken aback that you seemed so shocked that it was mentioned in the same breath as Illmatic.
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I've written way too much about GKMC in this thread and everyone already knows I stan Kendrick.

Looks like Cobbler is holding it down anyway.
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Your endorsement has convinced me, I'll give it another try when I can actually focus on it. I have a 2-hour bus/subway commute each way to work so I'll certainly have time.


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I don't think I'll ever like that album. Or Kendrick's voice. Or his claims to be the new King of New York. I just generally don't care much for him...but he's been endearing himself on me, as of late.
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I don't think I'll ever like that album. Or Kendrick's voice. Or his claims to be the new King of New York. I just generally don't care much for him...but he's been endearing himself on me, as of late.

This guy is saying he's the "king of New York"?

Isn't he from Compton? I thought that was the whole big deal, that he was "bringing the West Coast back"? Now I'm just confused.


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This guy is saying he's the "king of New York"?

Isn't he from Compton? I thought that was the whole big deal, that he was "bringing the West Coast back"? Now I'm just confused.


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He's from Compton, yeah, but Ashley's referring to his verse on this track

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It's exaggerated braggadocio. He's saying he's the king of both coasts. The best in the world.
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Dave seemed confused by the comment itself
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Speaking of Kendrick, I'm finally giving good kid a listen, and yeah, it lives up to the hype. That opening trio is killer, especially Backseat Freestyle, which might be the best hip-hop song I've heard. I see how that track can be misread message-wise, but in context it hits pretty hard, even for a listener about as far removed from Compton as possible.

I'm not sure how I feel about Kendrick's voice, but he's obviously a very literate guy, and the instrumentation/beats keep you guessing. The female backing vocals work really well when they pop up (especially in the second half of Dying of Thirst). You do get a sense of this guy's life through the album - it all comes off as very genuine.

PS I'm still not sure I've ever heard a hip-hop skit/interlude that adds anything to the overall narrative.

Edit: And one last thought - Compton (the track) is totally unnecessary. Not sure why it's there when Real seems to close the album thematically in about every way you could want.
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I think it's ludicrous for any rapper from LA to say they are the king of anything on the east coast, and vice versa, no matter who it is. Even if Tupac came back from the grave and said it, it would still be just as dumb.


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Speaking of Kendrick, I'm finally giving good kid a listen, and yeah, it lives up to the hype. That opening trio is killer, especially Backseat Freestyle, which might be the best hip-hop song I've heard. I see how that track can be misread message-wise, but in context it hits pretty hard, even for a listener about as far removed from Compton as possible.

I'm not sure how I feel about Kendrick's voice, but he's obviously a very literate guy, and the instrumentation/beats keep you guessing. The female backing vocals work really well when they pop up (especially in the second half of Dying of Thirst). You do get a sense of this guy's life through the album - it all comes off as very genuine.

PS I'm still not sure I've ever heard a hip-hop skit/interlude that adds anything to the overall narrative.

Edit: And one last thought - Compton (the track) is totally unnecessary. Not sure why it's there when Real seems to close the album thematically in about every way you could want.
Interesting... judging by your posts over the last year or so it seems like the more visceral, trunk-rattling, aggressive hip-hop is your bag. I love Backseat Freestyle, for both the beat, which is huge, and the lyric, which is rap bravado at its best. I think Kendrick also said himself that Backseat Freestyle is written from the point of view of a young, mid/late teens Kendrick doing his first braggadocio rap.

For me I really only enjoy skits when they're funny. I love the one at the end of Backseat Freestyle I think it is about the Dominoes pizza.

Agreed on Compton. I think the album should end on Dying of Thirst, with Real and Compton, both of which I like, being bonus tracks. Compton is tacked on as a victory lap, I guess.

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Rap's a dick-waving contest, so I don't think it's ludicrous.
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