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Old 04-22-2014, 07:29 AM   #181
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honest is great; fuck all the haters. future's really growing into his own as an artist. there's way less autotune too, since I know that was your issue earlier, cobbler.
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To be fair, I only hate him for derailing and eventually murdering the Outkast show.
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Old 04-22-2014, 08:46 AM   #183
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haha it's ok, I'm just being snarky and stanning out
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Old 05-04-2014, 04:42 PM   #184
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So I'm trying to acquaint myself with some of the classics of this genre, which is a major blind spot for me musically. So far I've acquired Paul's Boutique, Madvillainy, and Aquemini. Any other suggestions would be welcome. The only stipulation I'll make is that I don't think I will ever care for the gang-banger, Compton-style stuff.
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Old 05-04-2014, 06:07 PM   #185
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Go buy Black Star's debut album, today.

Then investigate the first 20 or so on this chart:

http://rateyourmusic.com/customchart...one&countries=
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Old 05-04-2014, 06:37 PM   #186
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So I'm trying to acquaint myself with some of the classics of this genre, which is a major blind spot for me musically. So far I've acquired Paul's Boutique, Madvillainy, and Aquemini. Any other suggestions would be welcome. The only stipulation I'll make is that I don't think I will ever care for the gang-banger, Compton-style stuff.

You should definitely check out A Tribe Called Quest's The Low End Theory and Nas' Illmatic. Both are bona-fide classics, and both have distinct jazz influences.

You should also check out DJ Shadow's Endtroducing. It's completely instrumental and constructed entirely from samples and it's a masterpiece.
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Old 05-04-2014, 07:18 PM   #187
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Oh shit, I take for granted that not every single person with interest in hip hop has heard Illmatic. Yeah, listen to that if you haven't, I think it's the greatest hip hop album ever.
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Old 05-04-2014, 07:40 PM   #188
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Thanks guys. It seems Kendrick is a pretty socially-conscious guy as well - maybe I'll look into him. Black on Both Sides seems to pop up on a lot of lists as well.
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Oh shit, I take for granted that not every single person with interest in hip hop has heard Illmatic. Yeah, listen to that if you haven't, I think it's the greatest hip hop album ever.
But Aquemini is your favourite, right? Illmatic is definitely in my top five. Every time I hear NY State of Mind, my jaw drops. It's absolutely astonishing.

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Thanks guys. It seems Kendrick is a pretty socially-conscious guy as well - maybe I'll look into him. Black on Both Sides seems to pop up on a lot of lists as well.
Kendrick is brilliant, you can't go wrong there. Black on Both Sides is in my top five, and I think you'll love it. Mos Def's lyrics are outstanding on that one, Mathematics in particular is mind-blowing.
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And I haven't heard the Madlib Shades of Blue record, but that should be of particular interest to you iYup, he remixed Blue Note records.
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Kendrick raps about Compton gangbanging, but in a detached, socially conscious way.
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And I haven't heard the Madlib Shades of Blue record, but that should be of particular interest to you iYup, he remixed Blue Note records.
Yeah, I've heard that. Really good shit there.
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But Aquemini is your favourite, right? Illmatic is definitely in my top five. Every time I hear NY State of Mind, my jaw drops. It's absolutely astonishing.
It's complicated. I know my top 5 is some order of Illmatic, Aquemini, Madvillainy, MBDTF and Black Star, but ordering them is nearly impossible.

Illmatic and Aquemini are 1a and 1b though, the former the most consistently great album of its kind and the latter with the highest peaks of any rap album.
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Aquemini, 36 Chambers, Madvillainy, Liquid Swords, Illmatic is my personal top five. I think in terms of pure rapping prowess, 36 Chambers is probably the best. Pretty much every single verse is flawless and RZA's production is perfect.
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Hip-Hop Talk II

wow these suggestions are so ny biased...

west coast: regardless of how you feel about "Compton-style," it's inexcusable to not listen to NWA, Snoop's Doggystyle, and just about anything DJ Quik has done. not saying you have to like it, but the west coast has been so influential that it's a travesty not to acquaint yourself with some of it.

southern rap: big krit is newer, but in the vein of what you're after, more "socially conscious" stuff (gawd that phrase makes me cringe now haha). bubba sparxx's deliverance is also phenomenal and never gets talked about. ugk, three 6 mafia, scarface, geto boys, and z-ro are all necessary as well.
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