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Old 11-12-2007, 10:50 PM   #1
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Hip-Hop Purists

Rakim
Nas
KRS-One
Jeru the Damaja
A Tribe Called Quest
Ice Cube
Binary Star
Jadakiss
Pete Rock
Gangstarr
Bone Thugs 'n Harmony
Eazy E
The Fugees
Hieroglyphics
Mos Def
Eric B
Classified
Brand Nubian
Cunninglynguists
Chino XL
Gravediggaz
Beastie Boys
DJ Shadow
RJD2
Del Tha Funkee Homosapien
Cypress Hill
Onyx
Ice-T
Talib Kweli
Atmosphere
Outkast
Jay-Z (pre Kingdom Come)
Mobb Deep (pre 2001)
NWA
Dr Dre
MF Doom
K-OS
Cormega
DMX
Eminem (1996-2002)
Pharoahe Monch (Organized Confusion)
Big Daddy Kane
Jedi Mind Tricks
Run DMC
Kool G Rap
CL Smooth
Xzibit (pre-2001)
Public Enemy
Grandmaster Flash
DJ Kool Herc
Redman
Canibus
Kool Moe Dee
Kurtis Blow
Royce Da 5' 9"
Immortal Technique
AZ
Big L
The Notorious BIG
Big Pun
Tupac
Common
Lauryn Hill
Afrika Bambataa
De La Soul
EPMD
Blackalicious
Busta Rhymes
Scarface
Raekwon
Ghostface
GZA
RZA
Inspektah Deck
U-God
ODB
Method Man
Digable Planets
Arrested Development
The Roots
Jurassic 5
Lupe Fiasco
Kanye West

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love the topic but how do you possibly expect that to start a discussion. it's like a non-alphabetized list from the rap section at a record store.

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I don't know how you can forget to include Kool Keith or Shock-G from Digital Underground.
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Forget the list. That's not what the topic is for. Just there to give an idea of the artists the thread's devoted to so that we don't get any "YEAAHAAHHH LIL WYANE IZ THA SHITTTT BSET RAPPER EVARRRRR!!!111!!!!11!" bullshit.



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love the topic but how do you possibly expect that to start a discussion. it's like a non-alphabetized list from the rap section at a record store.

I guess see how it goes as a loose hip-hop discussion thread. It's a genre that actually rarely gets discussed around here - but often gets random shots fired against it as a whole ("Rap sucks") - which for many people who love hip-hop generally I assume is read under the assumption that the poster who fired the shot is mostly only exposed to the mostly awful MTV/commercial radio world of hio-hop today.

Sooooo... general 'good' hip-hop discussion thread/introduction thread kicked off by a required listening list for those who may be interested.
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Sooooo... general 'good' hip-hop discussion thread/introduction thread kicked off by a required listening list for those who may be interested.
Yes. Exactly. Thank you.

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Can I state for the record, before this thread gets underway, that I want to kick Young Dro in the ball sack?

Carry on.
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Why don't you define Hip Hop "purists" first. I definately think hip hop is an incredible artform, but the word "purists" is not one that many would use in describing hip hop. Also, given my definition of hip hop purists, a few on that list don't even come close.
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so that we don't get any "YEAAHAAHHH LIL WYANE IZ THA SHITTTT BSET RAPPER EVARRRRR!!!111!!!!11!" bullshit.
Lil Wayne is one of the most pathetic rappers in history.

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The big problem with the way a lot of people see hip-hop is that it is percieved as one static type of music. You hear the phrase 'rock music', and you don't know exactly what that's referring to because there are many different kinds of rock music, but you hear 'hip-hop' or 'rap' and you only get one picture in your head.

There's this whole group of 'MTV' hip-hop artists - 50 Cent, Lil' Jon, Bow Wow, Ja Rule, etc etc, any of these hip-hoppers that are all about the bling bling(what an idiotic word) and how many times they can use the words 'nigga' and bitchez' and the like. They are awful and they give the whole genre a bad name.

I don't even like Kanye. People rave about him being some big genius, and I just don't see it.

My favorites are the Beastie Boys and Eminem. I always hesitate to say that because I'm afraid people will hear it and say 'racist'. I don't care about black/white. I just think these two hip-hop artists are incredible and they both happen to be white.

I also like Wyclef Jean, Tupac, Dr. Dre, et al. Some Run DMC and Public Enemy isn't bad either.

But then you have people like Puffy/Diddy/whatever the hell he's calling himself this week. His biggest hits ever were I'll Be Missing You(Every Breath You Take) and Come With Me(Kashmir). Much of his success is built on the riffs of two of the greatest rock groups in history. Or you Vanilla Ice who blatently stole Queen's Under Pressure bass riff. Of course, sampling is prominent in all hip-hop music, but there is a difference between sampling to enhance hip-hop and building an entire song around a sampled riff.

I'm rambling, but I guess my main point is, today more than ever, there's a lot of posturing that goes on with a lot of hip-hop artists, with the bling, the shades, the demaning attitude towards women, the glorification of drugs and violence, etc etc. Hip-hop as an artform, at its core, is poetry put to a beat. Seeing some guy acting like a total dumbass screaming 'nigga' and 'bitches' and 'hoez' with unwarranted attitude while wearing jewlery that was apparently designed for the giant from Jack And The Beanstalk is not poetry put to a beat, it's just posturing to idiots who think that shit is cool.

Hip-hop is at its best when it is intelligent and meaningful, when it says something.
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Forget the list. That's not what the topic is for. Just there to give an idea of the artists the thread's devoted to so that we don't get any "YEAAHAAHHH LIL WYANE IZ THA SHITTTT BSET RAPPER EVARRRRR!!!111!!!!11!" bullshit.



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Fair enough.

Black Star was definitely a great group, with two of the best hiphop voices around today, imo.

some more:

Sugarhill Gang
Tribe Called Quest
Spearhead
Disposable Heroes of HipHoprisy
Common Market
MC Solaar
Saul Williams

I'm glad hip-hop seems to be (sort of) getting back on course.

I'm not sure why you have a qualifier up there by Jay-Z, but not Tupac.

And yeah, I guess we need to define "purists."

Jurassic 5 used to be one of my favorite groups but "Feedback" was a real disappointment and now they've broken up anyway.

Should be interesting to see what all we white guys on the U2 forum have to say about hiphop...


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My favorites are the Beastie Boys and Eminem. I always hesitate to say that because I'm afraid people will hear it and say 'racist'. I don't care about black/white. I just think these two hip-hop artists are incredible and they both happen to be white.

I also like Wyclef Jean, Tupac, Dr. Dre, et al. Some Run DMC and Public Enemy isn't bad either.
Take advantage of that list then, there's alot more good stuff out there.
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