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Old 11-13-2007, 07:29 PM   #46
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Do The Streets' Mike Skinner and/or Lily Allen count?
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Do The Streets' Mike Skinner and/or Lily Allen count?
The Streets, yes.

Lily Allen, FUCK and NO.

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Why don't you define Hip Hop "purists" first. I definately think hip hop is an incredible artform, but the word "purists" is not one that many would use in describing hip hop. Also, given my definition of hip hop purists, a few on that list don't even come close.
I still think this is worth answering, especially if you're after a REAL discussion.
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"Purists" refers to the people listening and discussing (namely, us), not the artists.
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The Streets, yes.

Lily Allen, FUCK and NO.

I think Lily is great, but is she a rap artist? NO.

The Streets are awesome though.
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...ok, but that doesn't remove the value of defining what is meant by the term.

earlier on it was said the list was included weed out posts on certain artists, which i agree with; there's a lot of crap out there.

also, by the names of a number of artists it's specified "before _____ year", "before _____ album" ...

just curious to know how you came up with those qualifiers.

for a personal example, i'd probably have left tupac on the list, with the qualifier (socially conscious material)
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I actually initially wasn't sure whether the 'purists' in the title was referring to us (as it turned out to be) or the music (eg 'conscious' hip-hop).
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These artists are in no way "purists" of the continuum. Some good stuff, but that shit ain't pure.
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for a personal example, i'd probably have left tupac on the list, with the qualifier (socially conscious material)
If there is anybody in rap who does NOT need any kind of qualifier, it is Mr. Tupac Shakur.
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If there is anybody in rap who does NOT need any kind of qualifier, it is Mr. Tupac Shakur.
you have every right to believe that, and i have every right to disagree.

if it were rap in general, i'd agree for the most part, but that list seems to be picking out acts with a certain mentality and not all of his lyrics fit with it.

"Brenda's Got a Baby," "Keep Ya Head Up," "Changes," Dear Mama" are all incredible songs.

His gangsta influenced work seems to be exactly against the purpose of the list, though, imo..
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I think I can rap a good chunk of Paul's Boutique from memory. I've listened to that album waaaaaaaay too much.
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I've heard To The 5 Boroughs so much I can pretty much recite the entire thing.

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I'm working on Ill Communication next.
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