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Old 12-15-2014, 01:07 AM   #16
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Shorter lists give me a lot less time to get lost in them. The 60 minute lists especially tend to feel like a sampler instead of a memorable, complete experience. 100+ minutes is usually my minimum. The only exception is single-genre lists, which can be a single disc and I usually get the idea.

I'm never going less than 2 hours because I find those lists more fun to make and I like too much music not to push. I spend more time making the list than anyone else will listening to it anyway, so I get top priority.
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Old 12-15-2014, 02:45 AM   #17
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For me at least, a shorter list is generally a more effective one in getting a mood across and keeping my attention. There is value in editing.
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Shorter lists give me a lot less time to get lost in them. The 60 minute lists especially tend to feel like a sampler instead of a memorable, complete experience. 100+ minutes is usually my minimum. The only exception is single-genre lists, which can be a single disc and I usually get the idea.

I'm never going less than 2 hours because I find those lists more fun to make and I like too much music not to push. I spend more time making the list than anyone else will listening to it anyway, so I get top priority.
Point/counterpoint.

The biggest difference between a great short list vs. a longer one is how it plays in the margins. Maybe the space between Track 10 and Track 11 can hold 2-3 more songs between 'em. I think for the purpose of sharing mixes, self-editing makes it easier for the recipients to chew on, and a lot of that stems from the blank CD/cassette tape methodology that I think the bulk of the culture from which it was born. I will revisit a long list that I make more than one someone else does due to that sense of propriety... but in the end it's me jerking my noodle. Hey, might as well do it yourself.
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Old 12-15-2014, 09:08 PM   #18
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LTJ:

Since I was just whining about short lists, it's fitting that I heard his next. Alright, so, this is another list with some choppy transitions that overall had some overarching feel working in its favor. I can't quite describe it...lo-fi indie rock? No, that's not quite it. Not industrial. It's dark and heavy rock music, only not really all that dark or heavy. CunninLynguists didn't fit in at all though, way too smooth and palatable for everything surrounding it, but the song itself was really good.

The heaviness of this list reminded me of the kind Liam employed on his list, only there isn't enough GREAT material here to bring me back. I liked having it on, but there weren't very many songs that jumped out at me as favorites. Most of the artists I hadn't heard of (Black Mountain, Arrows of Love, Sons and Daughters) were just OK, nothing I would seek out further. I will say that I really liked the Ty Segall track (Manipulator ), Dinosaur Jr. and MSP tracks (I've got to hear that album at some point).

The general idea and feel of this list is on point, but there is some dead weight that took away from the list's focus. If you're focusing on one sound (which you largely did), stick to that instead of going in a different direction briefly and pulling back in. I would have preferred 5 more in the vein you were following than the CunninLynguists and Saul Williams tracks. Also, as IWB mentioned, the ending didn't work. Neither track fit in quite right with the rest. But overall yeah, this was pretty enjoyable.
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Old 12-16-2014, 08:39 PM   #19
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Well Vlad, if this first track is indicative of the entire list, it's going to be a blast. This song is an industrial tour-de-force.
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Old 12-18-2014, 01:17 PM   #20
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I've had a very busy last few weeks so I've barely had time to listen to anything DI related. I've got plenty of time now though, so I'll probably get through these last few lists pretty quickly.

I just finished LJT's list. I really enjoyed it. That means that I also thought it was too short but on the other hand, the best albums always leave you wanting more. I've also stated on numerous occasions that I'm a fan of shorter lists so whatever, it was a fun listen. Lots of stuff I didn't know as usual but there were some more well-known artists, with songs I wasn't familiar with, mixed in at just the right times to make sure there were reference points for me.

I loved how you put two hip-hop songs in the middle of all the rock without it sounding out of place. Especially the Cunninlynguists track was awesome. Another one of their tracks was one of the highlights of Ashley's list so I need to hear more from them. Other stand-outs were John the Baptist and It's Me. Dinosaur Jr's guitar sound never gets old does it? The Ty Segall track makes me want to check out his latest album. The last two tracks were wonderful as well. My Zero has such a nice melody.
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Going through Sad Punk's list - the transition between Bear in Heaven and Twisted Wires was superb. I also think Bonoz212 is going to love this list.
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Also this Gap Between song is sublime.
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Unfortunately, "Paranoid" is the worst Kanye song I have heard by a fair margin. What is the general feeling about 808s, anyway?
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It's true: there ain't nothing like the real thing.
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LMP:

Well you definitely had the most ambitious transition of this competition: Wagner into Thee Oh Sees. Sounds horrible on paper but it was actually really cool. Nicely done. The opening guitar in the latter has such a cool sound. I listened to their album once and didn't go back to it but I'm going to do that in the near future as I loved Toe Cutter.

I've said in numerous reviews that I normally don't enjoy people mixing too many genres in one playlist but I did enjoy it here for some reason. I really don't know why. Maybe it's because you went even further than most with it. Each song sounded completely different than the previous one. In any case, I thought it worked. The Cult Song was horrible though, irritating even. Luckily that was the only song I disliked. The Prince track was a highlight. I still haven't listened to Sign o' the Times but I'll have to change that soon as I enjoyed a few of his tracks in this DI alone. The same goes for Days Are Gone by HAIM. Seemingly everyone has used a track by them and I've enjoyed each one. And now I'm starting to sound like a broken record but the same goes for Talking Head's Remain In the Light.

I have no idea what to think of Ariel Pink. It's so cheesy but fun at the same time. The songs following songs were all enjoyable but nothing stood out to me. Dance of A Dream Man was a nice resting point. Let It Be was another highlight. Great song and just like iyp, this is the first song Replacements song that I actually liked I think. River Deep, Mountain High wasn't for me. Just totally not my thing. Champagne Coast is a great song and I Am A God fit perfectly after that. The final three songs didn't stand out to me in particular but I did like them, although I wouldn't mind seeing Sinnerman being cut by a few minutes.

Overal, I thought you had a wickedly fun playlist. It was totally crazy in its diversity but it worked. So props for that.
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Vlad:

Just like LMP, you had an ambitous opening but then in a completely different way. Two extremely long songs and funnily enough my experience of both was totally different. I loved the Underworld track. Didn't bore me once during those 16 minutes. It always changed before it started getting boring. The Stereolab song wasn't my cup of tea though. It didn't have any memorable hooks or grooves so I lost track halfway through and it didn't capture my attention again. Your list immediately picked up after that though. The highlight of the first half, next to Underworld, was the Splean track. It sounds like it would have fit on OK Computer. The intro of that song also reminded me a great deal of a certain dEUS track I love, Nothing Really Ends.

Palace & Main was another highlight. I loved the Something for Kate song that cobbler used in his entry so I was looking forward to the one you used. I didn't like it as much as Star-Crossed Citizens but I still liked it a lot though. Some nice guitar work and surprising tempo changes. I liked all the remaining songs and the final three in particular. Lush seems to describe that band pretty well, at least based on that one song. I loved it. I also liked how the electronics came back on the next track after all the guitar stuff. Vse was a great, epic closer.

Apart from Stereolab I liked every song on your playlist. The Russian songs didn't sound out of place either and I barely noticed that there was singing in another language as lyrics (luckily) aren't the focus of those songs.
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LJT:

- Great intro. Good chorus, nice incorporation of strings into the layers of the song. Good "wind down" ending. Singer sounds far too much like late era Bono.

- Unfortunately it goes into a droopy blues rock song, which bored the socks off of me. Play like you mean it, lads.

- Very similar riff in "Feel", but played far more energetically and convincingly. Weirder arrangement. It even made a drum solo palatable!

- I can get into the incongruous introduction that the Manics do.

- Cunninlynguists is a terrible band name/artist name. The song is only marginally better.

- In contrast, I thought the Saul Williams track had a real sense of terror and fear behind it. Sort of terrifying to listen to. Could be the weird rhythm track.

- For once, PJ Harvey writes a song that is just unmemorable. Not great, not crap. Just there.

- I was prepared to write off Arrows of Love, but that switch into a sort of fourth gear at the last minute is EXHILARATING. Not sure if it'd be as effective a second time, but god damn.

- Dinosaur Jr. think they're Dream Theater without all of the 64th notes.

- Sons and Daughters - good, slightly off kilter guitar rock. Nicely done.

- "I thought you'd always be my zero" is a super depressing chorus, but man it's catchy. Chilled, laidback, but very effective tune.

- I don't think A Quiet Life's use was at all justified - the list was nowhere near long, nor emotional enough to use that as a payoff. That said, I loved how short and concise the list was - you could have cut a couple of tracks from the middle and made it near perfect. A real pleasure to listen to.

LeMac, you're up.
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I hope to finish the remaining three lists tomorrow before the deadline. Should be manageable.
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Just like LMP, you had an ambitous opening but then in a completely different way. Two extremely long songs and funnily enough my experience of both was totally different. I loved the Underworld track. Didn't bore me once during those 16 minutes. It always changed before it started getting boring. The Stereolab song wasn't my cup of tea though. It didn't have any memorable hooks or grooves so I lost track halfway through and it didn't capture my attention again. Your list immediately picked up after that though. The highlight of the first half, next to Underworld, was the Splean track. It sounds like it would have fit on OK Computer. The intro of that song also reminded me a great deal of a certain dEUS track I love, Nothing Really Ends.

Palace & Main was another highlight. I loved the Something for Kate song that cobbler used in his entry so I was looking forward to the one you used. I didn't like it as much as Star-Crossed Citizens but I still liked it a lot though. Some nice guitar work and surprising tempo changes. I liked all the remaining songs and the final three in particular. Lush seems to describe that band pretty well, at least based on that one song. I loved it. I also liked how the electronics came back on the next track after all the guitar stuff. Vse was a great, epic closer.

Apart from Stereolab I liked every song on your playlist. The Russian songs didn't sound out of place either and I barely noticed that there was singing in another language as lyrics (luckily) aren't the focus of those songs.
Thanks for the feedback. Splean are pretty much the closest thing to a Russian Radiohead, put simply.
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Deadline is tomorrow? Shit, I still haven't finished this batch and probably won't til Wednesday.
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