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Old 12-12-2014, 05:17 PM   #91
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Not gonna lie, but when I first viewed your playlist, the first thing that came to mind was, this is B&C's greatest hits, or something to that effect. And for some strange reason, it put a sour taste in my mouth, although I can't explain why. Perhaps it was the familiarity of it all, as I've heard most of these songs before.

But then I listened...

Loved the start, and then going into Kayne and Autre Ne Veut. I like certain Phantogram songs but not that whole album; this is one of the better tracks.

Never really cared for Flying Lotus or The Antlers, but the tracks surrounding them are all great. Hell, you even included Mute Math from back in the day. Great stuff. And then a fantastic stretch from God Is An Astronaut to Dum Dum Girls, one of the best parts to this.

I've indicated not liking Nick Cave previously, but this track was interesting and kept my attention, which is a plus. The Tim Hecker cut was one of the few on here I didn't know, but man, that was beautiful.

Probably my favorite Broken Bells song - nice choice. Followed by Destroyer, it went well, even if I'm in the minority with his stuff.

Haim's Edge should have been on the regular album, in place of one of the weaker tracks in the latter half of that record (i.e., My Song 5). And what a trifecta to end with, even if I'm still a bit annoyed that U2 didn't give The Troubles a better fade out.

I thought the transitions were very well done, really no compaints there.

My only nitpick, and it's minor, would have been the inclusion of some older songs. I think some classics would have fit in well with the theme presented here and given this just a bit more variety in terms of eras represented.

But again, not a big deal in the grand scheme of things. I think this is probably the best playlist you've ever put together. Well done.
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Flow, to me, refers to more than just the transitions
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Flow, to me, refers to more than just the transitions
Yeah, if I mean transitions, I'll say transitions. Flow has to do with overall vibe too. Like I said before, the first and last 10 seconds don't mean much.
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Alright, time for iYup, the last list of the group. I'm not even going to discuss the flow on iYup's list because, unless he was totally incompetent, there's no way these tracks would sound bad together. Even if you put them on shuffle, they would probably work together OK. It's not just that they're "blues," but it goes down to the chord progressions themselves: this is pretty much one 12 bar blues progression after another. Had he made a 2 hour list, this could have been disastrous. Thankfully, he kept it to a trim hour and a half and, actually, the similar chord progressions gave the list one very nice twist: despite covering electric blues, Delta, folk and jazz, all of these songs come from the same tradition. There was a surprising amount of variety here. And the sequencing was in fact very clever. The only really lazy moment was putting the Dead Weather and the White Stripes back-to-back.

As far as the song choices go, I'll say this list had a low ceiling but a high floor. I liked nearly everything on here, but very few of these tracks are all-time favorites for me (The Stooges, Leadbelly and Bob Dylan tracks are an exception). There are some artists I wish had made the cut (early Allman Brothers, Taj Mahal, Albert King, John Lee Hooker), but many classics are present here. In fact, for me, there weren't a lot of surprises because these are blues songs many people have at least heard covered at some point or other, but they're also essential. Overall, I would say this was a very consistent and high quality sampler of the origins and influence of blues.
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Gonna try and knock out the last two lists tomorrow, fyi.
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I like that iyup has the pair of jack white things together so I don't have to hear him resurface later on, it would not fit between the later old timey stuff, or the new school old timey stuff (springsteen's cover of pay me my money down, for exmple).

And I fucking love that "in the mood" is on his list. Absolutely love it. It doesn't belong in the same sentence as zeppelin, and that's why they aren't back to back. But they both have a place on this list.
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Alright, time for iYup, the last list of the group. I'm not even going to discuss the flow on iYup's list because, unless he was totally incompetent, there's no way these tracks would sound bad together. Even if you put them on shuffle, they would probably work together OK. It's not just that they're "blues," but it goes down to the chord progressions themselves: this is pretty much one 12 bar blues progression after another. Had he made a 2 hour list, this could have been disastrous. Thankfully, he kept it to a trim hour and a half and, actually, the similar chord progressions gave the list one very nice twist: despite covering electric blues, Delta, folk and jazz, all of these songs come from the same tradition. There was a surprising amount of variety here. And the sequencing was in fact very clever. The only really lazy moment was putting the Dead Weather and the White Stripes back-to-back.

As far as the song choices go, I'll say this list had a low ceiling but a high floor. I liked nearly everything on here, but very few of these tracks are all-time favorites for me (The Stooges, Leadbelly and Bob Dylan tracks are an exception). There are some artists I wish had made the cut (early Allman Brothers, Taj Mahal, Albert King, John Lee Hooker), but many classics are present here. In fact, for me, there weren't a lot of surprises because these are blues songs many people have at least heard covered at some point or other, but they're also essential. Overall, I would say this was a very consistent and high quality sampler of the origins and influence of blues.
Thanks for the review here. I was conscious of the run time, as these kind of genre workouts are prone to overstaying their welcome. Re: Allman Brothers, I was strongly considering them, but for some reason I find that particular brand of white-man southern blues somewhat bastardized. And I know that sounds odd considering the presence of Zeppelin and the Stones here, but in those cases the songs sound a lot less forced than say, Lynard Skynard or whatever.
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I took a while to get through Afliktor's list, but now have it finished. Breaking it into the three sections was wise, because they would have had trouble meshing with each other despite the similar tone running through them. The first section was probably the strongest in terms of variety and sequencing, with Bonobo and DJ Shadow being standouts (I really need to get around to Entroducing, which I have had for a while but never listened to).

Section two was more patchy to my ear; these weren't poor songs by any stretch, but they were arranged in a haphazard way, especially (as others have noted) with Crystal Ballroom seemingly shoe-horned into the list. That said, Mogwai was an excellent closer, adding a bit of menace to an otherwise mellow section.

The third section is cohesive but also a bit abrasive in spots (e.g. the Lincoln Park-esque screaming in "Can You Feel My Heart"). If I'm honest, "Love Me to Death" is one of the worst songs I have heard in a while, with extremely half-assed lyrics (I don't think the term "email" should ever appear in lyrics) and a generic beat. That one unfortunately soured me a bit on what followed. Overall I would say a mixed-bag with some very strong moments.
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Thanks for the review here. I was conscious of the run time, as these kind of genre workouts are prone to overstaying their welcome. Re: Allman Brothers, I was strongly considering them, but for some reason I find that particular brand of white-man southern blues somewhat bastardized. And I know that sounds odd considering the presence of Zeppelin and the Stones here, but in those cases the songs sound a lot less forced than say, Lynard Skynard or whatever.
I specified early Allman Brothers because, prior to Duane's death, they delivered two very good blues rock records and At Fillmore East, one of the finest live albums of all time. They weren't comparable to Skynyrd until Dickey Betts took over for Duane and they started writing Ramblin' Man type shit.

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Also, I've been listening to a lot of blues since hearing iYup's list. Man, I'm really digging the White Stripes' debut. I haven't heard it in ages.
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So cobbler, I liked the rest of your list as well, but not as much as the first part. The short hiphop section was great following the mellow DJ Shadow track. I did expect it to be a bit longer though. It certainly wouldn't have hurt. In general, I thought you were genre hopping a tad too much in the second part of your playlist. I know that's what you were aiming for but I usually prefer it when you stick to a genre/sound for say 5-10 songs and then mix it up.

I still enjoyed basically every song I heard though, with some standing out more than others of course. St Vincent followed by Something for Kate was a highlight. I love the chorus of that last song. This Is the Last Time is one of my favorite tracks by The National so that one's always nice to here. The inclusion of Radio Cure was great as well, as that's my favorite track on Yankee Hotel Foxtrot. I'm a fan of Passion Pit but I've never heard Manners which is something I should correct because Swimming in the Flood is fantastic. Probably the highlight of the second half. The final four song stretch was a strong end to the mix.

Great list from you Dan, definitely one of my favorites so far.
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Yes you goddamn do, iYup. You'll love Endtroducing.....

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So cobbler, I liked the rest of your list as well, but not as much as the first part. The short hiphop section was great following the mellow DJ Shadow track. I did expect it to be a bit longer though. It certainly wouldn't have hurt. In general, I thought you were genre hopping a tad too much in the second part of your playlist. I know that's what you were aiming for but I usually prefer it when you stick to a genre/sound for say 5-10 songs and then mix it up.

I still enjoyed basically every song I heard though, with some standing out more than others of course. St Vincent followed by Something for Kate was a highlight. I love the chorus of that last song. This Is the Last Time is one of my favorite tracks by The National so that one's always nice to here. The inclusion of Radio Cure was great as well, as that's my favorite track on Yankee Hotel Foxtrot. I'm a fan of Passion Pit but I've never heard Manners which is something I should correct because Swimming in the Flood is fantastic. Probably the highlight of the second half. The final four song stretch was a strong end to the mix.

Great list from you Dan, definitely one of my favorites so far.
Thanks heaps man! And yeah, that SFK chorus is stunning. You should definitely check out Manners. I prefer it over Gossamer by a very wide margin.
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- Holy crap the Go Team are an energetic, lively opener. Got me super pumped up. Great melody, great interplay between the horns.

- Unfortunately all of that momentum is jettisoned by Kayne. The only good thing about this song is the weird backing vocal throughout.

- Autre Ne Veut is all over the place. Can't say in a place for more than a few seconds. I think this is great, because the textures keep changing, which keeps the song progressing.

- Phantogram aren't bad. The "eh eh" backing vocals are SUPER FUCKING ANNOYING though.

- Flying Lotus - very well placed.

- The Roots and Gorillaz both do very little for me. Something about the singing just grates. I feel like I'm being preached to, and I hate being preached too.

- Mutemath's combination of hip hop and reggae is pretty interesting! The lyrics are pretty cliched reggae, but in this context they're far more convincing.

- The Antlers - beautiful, soulful stuff. Restrained singing over a jazzy, electronic ballad.

- Good contrast between God Is An Astronaut and We Were Promised Jetpacks - it's heavy rocking, but also sort of Celtic? (This leads really nicely into Cults.)

- Hey, a decent Wilco song! Well I'll be damned.

- In the context of a long indie-rock section, you can hear what makes St. Vincent really stand out - she writes unusual chord progressions, she makes production choices that nobody else would.

- Hey, Radiohead still fucking suck.

- The National = Leonard Cohen?

- I guess the length really got to me by the second half of this list. It was consistently good, but I just couldn't get into it because I had just come off an hour of stuff that wildly varied in quality. I'm not sure why.
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Cobbler, I thought you nailed your concept, especially with that ending. Worked very well along with the story you tell in the write-up. I do find it a bit presumptuous of you to suggest that your list is as genre-dense as IWB's or LeMel's, simply because your stretch of dance music was relatively short in comparison with their respective genres and the rest of your list goes pretty much to the B&C well. I found that a tad disappointing, but not overly much so.

A few stand-out tracks, from albums I'd already heard, but apparently just didn't quite click with, initially. Specifically the DJ Koze and Jon Hopkins songs. Maybe I just needed to hear them in a new way to really click with them.

Also nice to hear a Something for Kate song that I didn't find really boring, because I keep hearing so much about this band, but nothing's ever really done anything for me up until now, but that one was good.
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Wow thanks heaps for that and yeah just to clear that up when I was talking about my list being genre dense I was only referring to the first eight or nine songs, not the whole thing, my bad.

I would say give Immunity a listen. It is a tremendous piece of work,.

If nothing else comes of this tournament I'm just so happy everyone's loved that SFK song.
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