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Old 01-13-2011, 12:28 AM   #106
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Just finished Screwtape's playlist.

- Great choice for an opening with the Akira track. Following it with “Delirious Night” was also inspired since a transition from the opener seemed like it would be difficult.
- I love the industrial section that lasted from the start until “The Fly.” The music from that late 80s/early 90s era is some of my favorite. Even though it took a backseat to grunge, I think this movement is more revolutionary.
- Placing “Stylo” between two rockier numbers looked weird on paper but worked brilliantly in execution.
- Not a fan of Moby of Tori Amos so those two songs took me out of it a little. Plus, I don’t think they worked as well after heavier “Dead Disco.”
- The 80s throwback works really well with “Low.” It feels like it could have fit as a New Wave song from that period.
- I absolutely love Empire of the Sun. Great inclusion, especially the way it moved into The Passions.
- Bat For Lashes through The Glove was another inspired section! You also included my favorite Garbage song so big props for that. (Only good thing to come out that Bond film in my opinion.)
- I didn’t think the techno section worked too well. For me, the songs went on a little too long and felt somewhat repetitive. Plus, “Insomnia” followed by “United Colors” felt like too extreme of a drop-off to me.
- Ending with Ghost in the Shell 2 track was another awesome choice, making a nice throwback to the anime opening song. (Also,I've seen Ghost in the Shell 2 and while I enjoyed it, it's probably the most confusing thing I've ever watched. )

All together, I greatly enjoyed your list but felt it dropped off after the Bowie track. Strong finish though!
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Old 01-13-2011, 01:17 PM   #107
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I'm glad that I did not disappoint you, sir. I love your enthusiasm for jazz - if you like, I could definitely give you a list of my favorite jazz albums. It's not that I'm an authority or anything; I'm just always looking for a reason to talk about jazz.
I would be equally interested in seeing this list. As of today, rateyourmusic claims I've only heard 18 jazz albums (not counting albums that are clearly jazz-influenced but wind up heading elsewhere), and that's just poor. Brubeck, Coltrane, Mingus, Miles, Guaraldi, Sun Ra and Eric Dolphy are the artists I'm familiar with.
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jazz is an intimidating genre. doesn't help that people who are knowledgeable and fans of it tend to do their very best to keep it that way. seems like the ones i've met have been worse than those super-indie people who only like bands 20 people or less have heard of. i took a history of jazz/blues sort of overview kind of class in college, and probably came out of it knowing less about the music than i did going in.

but miles davis "so what" was playing in the deli when i went to get some lunch today. that made me happy.


i would also be interested in the iyup list of good jazz. i'm partial to big band stuff that most purists would turn their noses up at, early miles davis (well, ok, not really any era of miles davis is bad, some of the fusion and more experimental stuff loses me at times, though), just the straightforward...don't know what you'd call it. probably the stuff that was "pop jazz" before the modern version of that crap came along. can we kill kenny g? anyway. i guess before you got into all the cool bop stuff. as with any genre of music, my primitive rock n roll-based 3 chords and the truth mind cannot handle anything too experimental. free jazz makes my ears bleed.
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really? Bomac is right, you are very near-sighted at times.

like most everyone is saying they don't like slipknot (i don't either, but i have a feeling i'm coming at my dislike of the band from the opposite angle that it's not hardcore enough, it's weak as hell, and there are a million other bands playing heavier, better music. slipknot are the watered-down, radio-friendly version of this. but anyway, not the issue), i haven't really ever been known to like anything that anyone has ever called "dance music." and usually things that are electronic-based turn out to be things that i hate.

but did you read the rest of the paragraph? pretty sure there was something in there about how i really enjoyed a bunch of the songs, and your electronic dance portion of the mix was...oh, how did i put it. i said it was pleasantly relaxing. THAT MEANS I ENJOYED IT.

if i'm close-minded and near-sighted for 1) trying something i normally can't stand and 2) telling everyone that i liked some of it, fine. but you've got some hell of a warped definition of those things, then. stating i'm realizing the more i hear, the less i like lcd soundsystem is close-minded? hate to be the first person to tell you this, but not everyone worships james murphy. disregarding the "more i hear part," which implies that i'm further giving the stuff a try, you're telling me that there's nothing out there that you dislike? the guy who called ska a plight on human existence, or some other such ridiculous hyperbole?
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you're telling me that there's nothing out there that you dislike? the guy who called ska a plight on human existence, or some other such ridiculous hyperbole?
That was me, kthx. The only thing I regret about that post was its lack of an exclamation point.
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oops. through my blind rage, i thought i was actually replying to you (LM) in the new essay i just wrote. now i see that was the cobbler reiterating mr. bomac's comment.

otherwise i would have just blown it off as a friggin' cobbler moment.
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I would be equally interested in seeing this list. As of today, rateyourmusic claims I've only heard 18 jazz albums (not counting albums that are clearly jazz-influenced but wind up heading elsewhere), and that's just poor. Brubeck, Coltrane, Mingus, Miles, Guaraldi, Sun Ra and Eric Dolphy are the artists I'm familiar with.
I'd be happy to send it to you. The thing about jazz, at least in my experience, is that there are so many quality albums that came out in the 50s and 60s that it becomes almost impossible to make recommendations. If there is one person that you enjoy, it usually helps to look at the sessions that the sidemen led. For instance, if (like me) you are a fan of Miles' second quintet, then you can go to the discographies of the people in the band, such as Herbie Hancock and Wayne Shorter. Because they were writing material for Davis, their leader-albums have a similar vibe.
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Alright, just listened to Reggo's list. It's easily one of the greatest mood pieces in DI history - I'm not sure it's really something you'd want to hear at most times, but it's put together very well and conveys a dark, twisted, depressive kind of vibe very well. It's not exactly suicidal black metal but it's still from a bleak sort of place that has rarely been explored in DI before.

A couple of bits didn't do it for me. The trio of Revolution 9, Empty Sounds Of Hate, and Pull/Pulk was pretty boring and I started to lose interest until Subway Song got going. And the Green Day song was out of place, not just in terms of the songs around it but in terms of the list as a whole. I don't have much else in the way of criticisms though; other songs that I didn't expect to work well, did. Please didn't stick out like I thought it might, and as much as I thought "oh dear, why one of the weakest songs from The Incident?" when I saw the list, Bonnie The Cat fit comfortably in the end. I'd have personally picked Sever or Russia On Ice, but that's minor quibbling.

All in all, a fine effort.
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I haven't quite finished her list myself, almost done, but I wanted to comment on this while I was thinking about it.

I agree pretty much entirely with the first paragraph of your post, Axver. Definitely a mood piece, and an achievement in it. Since it was clearly going for one effect over the entire course, perhaps it would've been best to have cut the length a bit, as it can become a bit droning after awhile hearing the same time of music again and again (a problem people may have with my list when they get to it). For what it is this list is a success.

But I can not disagree with you more about "Revolution 9" I felt like that was truly a tying together part of the list, and without it, it wouldn't have worked to the extent that it does. Also, "Please" fit in marvelously. That was quite a shock.

The fun thing about this list for me, is that now I'm going around trying to find other songs that could/should have been on it. As I've already told Reggo in another thread, "Frankee Teardrop" by Suicide would've been an EXCELLENT addition to the list.
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But I can not disagree with you more about "Revolution 9" I felt like that was truly a tying together part of the list, and without it, it wouldn't have worked to the extent that it does.
See, I thought the list had been building up a great, interesting, and involving mood, and Revolution 9 just made me switch off and tune out. Definitely the weakest moment for me, and if the list had just gone straight to Subway Song, it would have been all the better.

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Also, "Please" fit in marvelously. That was quite a shock.
Although I don't think you've read me wrong, I'm worried that I worded my post badly, so to clarify re: Please, it didn't stick out like the sore thumb I thought it would, but it did stick out in the sense Ashley describes - that it fit marvellously, far better than expected.
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See, I thought the list had been building up a great, interesting, and involving mood, and Revolution 9 just made me switch off and tune out. Definitely the weakest moment for me, and if the list had just gone straight to Subway Song, it would have been all the better.



Although I don't think you've read me wrong, I'm worried that I worded my post badly, so to clarify re: Please, it didn't stick out like the sore thumb I thought it would, but it did stick out in the sense Ashley describes - that it fit marvellously, far better than expected.
Agree to disagree. I find Revolution 9 so frenetic and creepy that it gave the terrified vibe Reggo wanted so perfectly.

Yeah, no I didn't read you wrong, that's what I meant as well. We good.
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i need to listen to reggo's list before screwtape or tackling the new stuff, cos i've managed to make it through 20 years as a beatles fan intentionally never listening to that song.
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Agree to disagree. I find Revolution 9 so frenetic and creepy that it gave the terrified vibe Reggo wanted so perfectly.

Yeah, no I didn't read you wrong, that's what I meant as well. We good.
Fair enough! I just found it tedious.

Good stuff, didn't think you had but thought I better clarify in case anybody else does.

Next list for me will be either LM or Screwtape. Wholly dependent on which finishes downloading first, which means it'll probably be Screw's list.
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like most everyone is saying they don't like slipknot (i don't either, but i have a feeling i'm coming at my dislike of the band from the opposite angle that it's not hardcore enough, it's weak as hell, and there are a million other bands playing heavier, better music. slipknot are the watered-down, radio-friendly version of this. but anyway, not the issue), i haven't really ever been known to like anything that anyone has ever called "dance music." and usually things that are electronic-based turn out to be things that i hate.

but did you read the rest of the paragraph? pretty sure there was something in there about how i really enjoyed a bunch of the songs, and your electronic dance portion of the mix was...oh, how did i put it. i said it was pleasantly relaxing. THAT MEANS I ENJOYED IT.

if i'm close-minded and near-sighted for 1) trying something i normally can't stand and 2) telling everyone that i liked some of it, fine. but you've got some hell of a warped definition of those things, then. stating i'm realizing the more i hear, the less i like lcd soundsystem is close-minded? hate to be the first person to tell you this, but not everyone worships james murphy. disregarding the "more i hear part," which implies that i'm further giving the stuff a try, you're telling me that there's nothing out there that you dislike? the guy who called ska a plight on human existence, or some other such ridiculous hyperbole?
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oops. through my blind rage, i thought i was actually replying to you (LM) in the new essay i just wrote. now i see that was the cobbler reiterating mr. bomac's comment.

otherwise i would have just blown it off as a friggin' cobbler moment.
haha. yeah i read all the post. finding that you enjoyed the Cut Copy song. there were songs on his list i didn't enjoy as well (though not very many). i guess, just being a big fan of electronic and dance music, a part of me gets very sad when i read "electronic dance music is pretty far up there on the list of things i hate most about the world". glad elmel's list opened your eyes a bit! i think you will truly hate half of my entry!
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