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Old 04-24-2010, 08:47 PM   #31
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I'm so far behind at this point that I'm just listening to lists that appear interesting or absolutely impossible to judge because of how few tracks I know on it. That is, I'll probably listen to Khan's list, but not Ian's.

Sooo...Cassie is up next, although my dilettante listening habits have caused me to have heard seven of these tracks before.
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I am also up to Cassie's list now. Let's see how this goes.
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Sooo...Cassie is up next, although my dilettante listening habits have caused me to have heard seven of these tracks before.
Out of curiosity, which seven?

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I am also up to Cassie's list now. Let's see how this goes.
Ha, hopefully it's not too painful for you, Ashley!
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Out of curiosity, which seven?
Nas (anything from Illmatic is a winner)
N.W.A.
The Roots
Reflection Eternal (TALIIIIB!)
Black Star (TALIB AND MOS!!!)
Lauryn Hill (been a long time since I've heard Miseducation, should be interesting)
Madvillain (great pick from Madvillainy)

Haven't started yet, but I intend to tonight. Incidentally, I had planned to listen to a Gang Starr album today (RIP Guru), not knowing how much of a hip hop overload tonight would be. It's all good.
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Old 04-25-2010, 01:30 AM   #35
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This list is amazing. So much fun, and it would be far easier for me to just list the songs that haven't blown me away than those that have. Is it homogeneous? Yes. Are there a few transitions that should have been switched around to make it flow a little better? Perhaps. But I'm 12 songs in, and I'm thinking you should be very proud of this list.
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Well, that was a bit of a slog near the end, but I feel enlightened now. Also, that Tribe song reminds me of Soul Food by Goodie Mob, which I intend to use on a DI list eventually. How can black people make songs about food and have it kick so much ass?

The songs were all awesome. I did feel, however, that you cheated a bit. Two HBE songs in a row? A D'Angelo song followed by a song with a prominent D'Angelo sample? These transitions are creative, but they take away from the legitimacy of the project, you know? You have all of these great obscure artists here, and we like to assume that you know dozens more. As far as flow goes, I feel it was a success, but I don't think it's perfect. Some songs I felt could work better elsewhere. Won't give any examples now, as it's not terribly relevant; you totally get an A for Africa anyway.
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This list is amazing. So much fun, and it would be far easier for me to just list the songs that haven't blown me away than those that have. Is it homogeneous? Yes. Are there a few transitions that should have been switched around to make it flow a little better? Perhaps. But I'm 12 songs in, and I'm thinking you should be very proud of this list.
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Well, that was a bit of a slog near the end, but I feel enlightened now. Also, that Tribe song reminds me of Soul Food by Goodie Mob, which I intend to use on a DI list eventually. How can black people make songs about food and have it kick so much ass?

The songs were all awesome. I did feel, however, that you cheated a bit. Two HBE songs in a row? A D'Angelo song followed by a song with a prominent D'Angelo sample? These transitions are creative, but they take away from the legitimacy of the project, you know? You have all of these great obscure artists here, and we like to assume that you know dozens more. As far as flow goes, I feel it was a success, but I don't think it's perfect. Some songs I felt could work better elsewhere. Won't give any examples now, as it's not terribly relevant; you totally get an A for Africa anyway.
The first half's definitely stronger than the second, I think. "Ham 'N Eggs" is fantastic; the fact that I'm veggie cracks me up during the song even more, especially when the script flips and one of them answers, "Yes." The homogeneity is one of those things...I had to sacrifice massive diversity for the theme of the list, more or less.

As for the "cheating," I was waiting for somebody to call me out on the HBE stuff. Also, Mos Def appears on three of four straight tracks at the end there. And, those points I will take; the D'Angelo/K'naan stuff perhaps needs a bit more explanation, but you are welcome to think it's still cheating. The D'Angelo bit comes at about the halfway point, so if I were one who liked to break down my lists into portions, it would've been there, right in between the two songs. It was meant as a two-song midway/central point (where the aesthetic explanation below is crystallized into one flash point, essentially). Plus, if you loop the playlist around, the K'naan/Koola Lobitos songs would do the exact same thing. This, of course, was done purposely in order to showcase one of hip-hop's main aesthetic characteristics, sampling and re-utilization of previous music, along with the cyclical nature of African music, generally. So, for me, it doesn't take away from the legitimacy of the project...perhaps in DI land it does, but in terms of African-influenced musics, that is its validity. That was my theoretical reasoning for it, at least. Whether or not it came off that way is another story, but there you have it.

And, I'm not going to lie, a lot of the intertextual stuff is more for me...inside joke type stuff, I guess, like in the Fashawn song, he raps, "You are now about to witness the strength of street knowledge," which is an infamous N.W.A. line (not from "Express Yourself," obviously, but from Straight Outta Compton), or the Talib sample from "Definition" being the hook for the Fashawn song.

Thanks for your thoughts and comments, Travis! They're always much appreciated, and the fact that you think the flow was good is a huge complement in and of itself, coming from a master such as yourself. Most of all though, I'm really glad you enjoyed the list.
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OK, yeah, I assumed there was more to it. The point about sampling is a good one; it also makes the list's homogeneity more justifiable. You could put the list on a loop and not notice the break.

Is it wrong that Express Yourself cracks me up? It's so sweet, yet it's N.W.A. I hesitate to call it a sellout move though; they seem to be aware that they're dialing it back and take advantage of that spotlight to deliver an honest to God message. It's really good, but I'm just not used to it.
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Yeah, but at the same time, just because I have reasons for it doesn't mean it has to be liked. I totally understand if somebody's not into the lack of variety and such; it's personal preference.

Ha! That's pretty much exactly why I picked it. The song's so...not N.W.A. I figured it'd mess with people's perceptions of the group (and gangsta rap at large) a bit. Also, for how much I rag on Dre's rapping abilities, I find it slightly hilarious that I ended up choosing his only solo track on the album.
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Is it wrong that Express Yourself cracks me up? It's so sweet, yet it's N.W.A. ... It's really good, but I'm just not used to it.
yeah! when i heard it i had a wtf moment, given i'm more used to NWA tracks which begin with bitches getting murdered

halfway thru joey's list... i have enjoyed it. i thought Opeth was a death metal band, so the fact that i really enjoyed that song was surprising. the sequence from there to Interpol was great, worked very well, not to mention Don't Panic is my favourite Coldplay song.
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Hey thanks, Phanan and Danny. Glad you guys liked it.

I'm gonna listen to Cassie's next, which I'm REALLY looking forward to. Looks great. Listened to most of Danny's in an unnecessarily long car trip around midnight last night and have been diggin it a lot. Only got a few songs left from the last section, which I assume will be the most hated, but I'm pretty fond of most of these songs (also love your sig and avatar) so yarr, I be hitting it.
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that particular song brought the house down last night at about 3am. quality times.
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I shall be resuming these tomorrow.

Also, plan on seeing the final Master List thread sometime Wednesday night.
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thoughts on joey's list:
i enjoyed the second half more than the first. (when did Muse turn into a boy band? ) and my ears didn't deceive me, i knew i could hear Wayne Coyne in the twelth track there. wasn't into the first four songs of disc 2 (i think Stadium Arcadium is one of the worst albums of last decade) but from Opeth to YYYs it was fantastic. i'm also very to say that i found yet another Arcade Fire track that i didn't like.

now for all you Interpolers out there -- i have Antics, which i think is pretty good, but how about Turn on the Bright Lights, is that worth a download/purchase?



thoughts on tracks 1-14 from een's list, with more thoughts on tracks 15 onwards to come tomorrow or thursday:

it's been a pretty good collection of songs. Being Born is in my top few of U2 in the noughties. i had never heard Badlands before, so i was pretty impressed with myself when i guessed it was a Springsteen song within two seconds of it coming on. i also thought Badlands > Listed Buildings worked great, for some reason. terrific song. didn't care for Australia, Auckland CBD or Lost Coastlines. Bloodbuzz Ohio was pretty good i thought (i wish i'd known you could include songs from albums yet to be released though).
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Quote of the day, Danny. Congratulations.
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