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Very solid song. Good to see them playing instruments like a real band instead of a bunch of guys behind keyboards.

If U2 did something like this I'd be really impressed.
 
Jive Turkey said:
.....complaining about Depeche Mode playing keyboards????
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lol yea that's a funny one!

Btw, I've been listening to Violator again over the past few days and I just wanted to make a general comment. I still think that SOFAD is better! I never quite understood why Violator is considered their best. Sure, it has lovely production and atmosphere all round. But overall, I think the songs are stronger on SOFAD. And it has plenty of atmosphere too! Higher Love is as good a closer as Clean. What do you guys think?
 
LemonMirrorSky said:
Btw, I've been listening to Violator again over the past few days and I just wanted to make a general comment. I still think that SOFAD is better! I never quite understood why Violator is considered their best. Sure, it has lovely production and atmosphere all round. But overall, I think the songs are stronger on SOFAD. And it has plenty of atmosphere too! Higher Love is as good a closer as Clean. What do you guys think?
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Honestly, I couldn't disagree with you more on this one, and think the exact opposite. My best friend and I have never understood why everyone likes SOFAD so much. It's probably my least favorite DM album from "Some Great Reward" through "Playing The Angel", and for me, on par with "Sounds Of The Universe".

And it's not just because of the shift in sound to harder, more guitar-oriented songs. I just don't think the songs themselves are very good. There are a couple exceptions, of course. I do love 'Condemnation', and 'Higher Love' and 'Judas' are good songs, but overall it feels undercooked to me and mostly boring and laborious. I'm not a fan of SOFAD at all.
 
Condemnation is one of my least favourite songs of theirs. Certainly the corniest. But I love Songs of Faith and Devotion - In Your Room (both the album and the single version) being a huge favourite.

I still prefer Violator, Music for the Masses and Ultra though.
 
Walking In My Shoes is I think my #1 fav song of theirs. I'll admit that I prefer the single version of In Your Room to the album version, although I don't hate the album version.

The thing is, with Violator I sometimes find myself skipping Sweetest Perfection or the ending part of Enjoy The Silence, for example. On SOFAD, practically every song seems like gold to me. It could be the rockier approach that is appealing to me. Or just early 90s nostalgia! ;)
 
Violator is one of my favorite albums ever. That stretch of Halo - Waiting for the Night - Enjoy the Silence alone would make it a great album.
 
I'm with you LMS, SOFAD is my favourite.

One thing I prefer about Violator is the band's image and videos at the time. They still had the sort of old Corbijn aesthetic of Music for the Masses (Enjoy the Silence might be one of my favourite music videos ever). There's an almost quaint quality to the work. While Corbijn was still playing a huge part, there was an obvious shift to a more modern feel when SOFAD came out. I still like it; I just prefer the look of Violator era
 
FitzChivalry said:
Alan was my favorite member! I keep hoping he will return one day. I was very happy when, in '11, each member of DM went to see Alan's Recoil art instillation project/tour. Glad to see they've mended their friendship. Now Alan just needs to get back on the DM train!

Having said that, I do like "Ultra" a lot and "Exciter" wasn't bad, but not great either. PTA and SOTU, aside from a few good individual songs, never really stuck with me.
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I was there at RAH when Alan Wilder joined them on stage for a song....magic moment

as for post Wilder material- I quite like Ultra, PTA is half a great album, SOTU and Exciter were terrible- on the basis of the 3 tracks we've heard so far I'm not optimistic about the new one either

I think they really underestimated his input (and still do) and what he did with the production
 
iron yuppie said:
Violator is one of my favorite albums ever. That stretch of Halo - Waiting for the Night - Enjoy the Silence alone would make it a great album.
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Waiting for the Night is stunning, I'll agree. It is one of the best on that album.

Jive Turkey said:
I'm with you LMS, SOFAD is my favourite.

One thing I prefer about Violator is the band's image and videos at the time. They still had the sort of old Corbijn aesthetic of Music for the Masses (Enjoy the Silence might be one of my favourite music videos ever). There's an almost quaint quality to the work. While Corbijn was still playing a huge part, there was an obvious shift to a more modern feel when SOFAD came out. I still like it; I just prefer the look of Violator era
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:hmm: Yea I see what you're talking about.
 
LemonMirrorSky said:
lol yea that's a funny one!

Btw, I've been listening to Violator again over the past few days and I just wanted to make a general comment. I still think that SOFAD is better! I never quite understood why Violator is considered their best. Sure, it has lovely production and atmosphere all round. But overall, I think the songs are stronger on SOFAD. And it has plenty of atmosphere too! Higher Love is as good a closer as Clean. What do you guys think?
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I wholeheartedly agree. I feel that some of the songs are the best writing of Martin's career (WIMS, IYR, etc.) and I think Flood and Alan really outdid themselves with the deliciously lush and layered production. Of course there's a lot to be said for the clean and crisp production of Violator, but there's just something special about SOFAD for me. It also has this dark romanticism and dark sensuality that you don't really find on the other albums and I think that's unique. I think that whole period, while internally destructive for the band, was just incredible: the album, the visuals, the tour... just firing on all cylinders.
 
Looks like the band will be appearing at SXSW in Austin, TX next week. Starting with a panel discussion on March 13th, followed by their first-ever SXSW Showcase on March 15th. Very exciting.

sxsw.com

They're also appearing at the Live on Letterman concert series on March 11th, and performing "Heaven" on the Late Show later that day.
 
phanan said:
I prefer Violator myself, although I think Clean is a poor closer.
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In retrospect, it's rather ironic that he wrote a song called "Clean" a few years before his own heroin addiction.

And now it has more resonance, in my opinion.

But I enjoyed the song to begin with, and actually planned to use it over the credits of a film I was making in high school that never got finished. It's better than New Dress, at least.
 
lazarus said:
In retrospect, it's rather ironic that he wrote a song called "Clean" a few years before his own heroin addiction.

And now it has more resonance, in my opinion.

But I enjoyed the song to begin with, and actually planned to use it over the credits of a film I was making in high school that never got finished. It's better than New Dress, at least.
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Martin writes all the songs, not Dave. But it's assumed he sometimes writes them for Dave. I'm pretty sure he was already into drugs when Martin wrote that one.

And New Dress is fucking awesome.
 
I already knew that; not sure why it slipped my mind or why I worded it that way. But yeah, like Bernie Taupin, I'm sure Gore occasionally wrote about the man who would be singing the words.
 
Depeche Mode released North American Tour Dates

Thursday, Aug. 22 – Detroit, MI – DTE Energy Music Theatre
Saturday, Aug. 24 – Chicago, IL – First Midwest Bank Amphitheatre
Tuesday, Aug. 27 – St. Paul, MN – Minnesota State Fair**
Sunday, Sep. 1 – Toronto, ON – Molson Canadian Amphitheatre
Tuesday, Sep. 3 – Montreal, QB – Bell Centre
Friday, Sep. 6 – Brooklyn, NY – Barclays Center
Sunday, Sep. 8 – Wantagh, NY – Nikon at Jones Beach Theater
Tuesday, Sep. 10 – Washington DC – Jiffy Lube Live
Thursday, Sep. 12 – Atlanta, GA – Aaron’s Amphitheatre at Lakewood
Saturday, Sep. 14 – Tampa, FL – Live Nation Amphitheatre at the Florida State Fairgrounds
Sunday, Sep. 15 – Ft Lauderdale, FL – BB&T Center
Wednesday, Sep. 18 – Houston, TX – Cynthia Woods Mitchell Pavilion
Friday, Sep. 20 – Dallas, TX – Gexa Energy Pavilion
Sunday, Sep. 22 – San Diego, CA – Sleep Train Amphitheatre
Tuesday, Sep. 24 – Santa Barbara, CA – Santa Barbara Bowl
Thursday, Sep. 26 – Mountain View, CA – Shoreline Amphitheatre
Saturday, Sep. 28 – Los Angeles, CA – STAPLES Center
Sunday, Sep. 29 – Los Angeles, CA – STAPLES Center
Tuesday, Oct. 8 – Phoenix, AZ – Desert Sky Pavilion'

Also, there are 4 different presales: CITI, Amazon.com, Facebook and Live Nation. Oy.
 
One of the worst venues in Toronto, but I'll probably go anyway. Who knows if this might be the last chance
 
Ooh, North American dates. What seems puzzling to me is that they're playing the Minnesota State Fair. :huh: In some way, an odd choice considering that the Twin Cities has the Target Center and the Xcel Energy Center within it's premises.

Wonder if they're going to add more dates? Schedule looks kinda small.
 
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