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Old 01-13-2016, 03:10 AM   #541
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Aside from Bring Me the Disco King, there is another really, really good song on Reality that gets overlooked: Fall Dog Bombs the Moon.

PREACH.

Love that track. My 2nd favorite on Reality.

Also a fan of She'll Drive The Big Car.
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Old 01-13-2016, 03:23 AM   #542
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Yeah, I love Fall Dog too. Reality is the weakest of his 21st century records, but I have a lot of affection for a few songs on it. It was also new when I first became a fan so I have some attachment to it on that level.
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I hated that MTV interview as interviewer assumed that Midwest is filled with racists, which isn't really true
But this was in 1983. I don't think he was inferring the midwest was filled with racists, moreso that middle America was fairly "white bread" for lack of a better term, and he wasn't completely wrong. Its just how to properly express that which caused him problems.

Bowie had a very valid point, but truth was that in its infancy, MTV was targeting white teenagers, and Goodman was trying to explain it off much like how radio stations programmed, rock stations vs. pop stations vs country etc., all have different target demographics. Goodman said something like "we play rock music" during the interview, basically saying MTV's target demographic at that time was similar to a rock radio station.
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Whoa, what the fuck, Earthling is a lot more enjoyable than I thought it would be. Drum and bass usually sounds dated to me, but the beats are implemented very tastefully and there are some strong melodies here. Not bad at all.

I'll say Small Wonder is a highlight as well. The arrangement on that one is crazy, it's like four songs in one.
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Old 01-13-2016, 07:50 AM   #545
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I grew up in Bum Fuck, and Prince was absolutely huge among my fellow young caucasoids in the early 80s.

Odd that the VJ would single him out as "scary."

Granted, my mom probably wouldn't have approved of Jack U Off if she had known what was on that cassette, but even she was a fan of Purple Rain.


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Old 01-13-2016, 07:58 AM   #546
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This interview was well before Purple Rain and when Prince was just hitting the mainstream with "Little Red Corvette" and "1999". As you mention stuff like "Jack U Off", "Head" etc., Prince prior to that was "scary" to programmers, but not in a racist way, more in a content way.


Prince became an MTV staple right around the time this interview aired:
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Prince's "Little Red Corvette" was one of the first two videos by a black artist played in heavy rotation on MTV, along with Michael Jackson's "Billie Jean".
By the time Purple Rain was released Prince was as prominent on MTV as Madonna, Duran Duran or anyone else.
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Old 01-13-2016, 08:14 AM   #547
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Looking up some old live footage, some of this is absolutely priceless:



The shared vocal with Bowie and Ronson

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I'm not as familiar with his post-80s work as I'd like to be either outside of 4 or 5 albums, but I'm a huge Heathen fan.
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This is way off. Black Tie White Noise didn't make many waves in the U.S., despite collaborating with Let's Dance producer Nile Rodgers again, but it went to #1 in the UK and had a big single with Jump They Say. But he made a very sharp left turn 2 years later with his Brian Eno reunion. Outside wasn't a popular success overall, but the video for Heart's Filthy Lesson made a big splash on MTV, and combined with his shocking new look (the spiked red hair) he became "cool" again among the alternative rock crowd, leading to the tour with Nine Inch Nails. That was a big fucking deal.

He was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1996. And as pointed out above by someone else, the I'm Afraid of Americans collaboration with Trent Reznor was another huge alternative hit, even if the album Earthling wasn't a major seller.

So while he did take a nosedive after this period, he was hardly "a joke" in this decade.
I'm Afraid of Americans is the song that really introduced me to Bowie and got me into his earlier stuff.




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Bowie was cool as fuck from 1995-1998. The Brian Eno/Trent Reznor era was divisive but at least he was trying. David Lynch brought him and Reznor on board for Lost Highway, for God's sake. Of course he was cool.
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He wasn't instrumental because I think it was inevitable, but he certainly helped Arcade Fire's name get out there.
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Fun to hear it tweaked for max disco appeal despite it being 100% sleaze on the album.
The whole thing screams 70's...even the interview after where he's sitting with Dinah and Henry Winkler and Nancy Walker, and Nancy Walker is smoking on live TV....

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I thought this was an excellent article.

On Race, David Bowie Delved Deep into the Darkness and Came Back Human - The Daily Beast

On hearing Blackstar: wow, so good.

I hadn't heard any of the songs from it yet - that title track, holy shit.
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But this was in 1983. I don't think he was inferring the midwest was filled with racists, moreso that middle America was fairly "white bread" for lack of a better term, and he wasn't completely wrong. Its just how to properly express that which caused him problems.

Bowie had a very valid point, but truth was that in its infancy, MTV was targeting white teenagers, and Goodman was trying to explain it off much like how radio stations programmed, rock stations vs. pop stations vs country etc., all have different target demographics. Goodman said something like "we play rock music" during the interview, basically saying MTV's target demographic at that time was similar to a rock radio station.
They're right about Poughkeepsie though. (I didnt watch the video, did they really say Poughkeepsie or was that just gump throwing that town in?)
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They're right about Poughkeepsie though. (I didnt watch the video, did they really say Poughkeepsie or was that just gump throwing that town in?)
No no, he explicitly mentions Poughkeepsie and the Midwest. I have nothing against Poughkeepsie.
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