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Old 12-11-2012, 04:45 AM   #16
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all right, let's see if this works.

video from split enz's first tv appearance from 1973 (back when they were still split ends) has made its way onto youtube. they were on nz's tv one...back when it was still just nzbc tv. anyway, it was new faces, a talent contest where they performed 129 (later called matinee idyll off the album second thoughts). they were invited back the next night and performed...sweet talking spoon song.

just watch, and appreciate tim's hair:
Split Ends - New Faces, 1973 - YouTube
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Old 12-11-2012, 04:56 AM   #17
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oh, and this tidbit is from wikipedia:
In late 1973, Split Ends entered New Zealand's New Faces TV talent contest. In preparation for their performance, they recorded "129" and "Home Sweet Home" (the songs would be released in November as their second single). Soon after, they also recorded the retro-1930s sounding "Sweet Talking Spoon Song", which would become the second single. They finished second to last in the finals of the contest, but their performance secured them a 30-minute concert special for Television New Zealand, which was recorded soon after.
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1973! Jesus christ.

Nice song, really sweet guitar, though those vocals are pretty high.
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Old 12-11-2012, 06:26 AM   #19
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both songs are awesome for different reasons (i also happen to have both singles). i mean i did name my ipod after sweet talking spoon song (i should note all my computer stuff is named after enz songs).

i just hate that parts of the video are missing. given how everyone feels the need to archive everything, it's unbelievable that there was a time when tv stations wiped their tapes because they didn't think stuff needed to be kept forever. i'm glad most of both of the songs are there, though.
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That was some thread bump...
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i tried.
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both songs are awesome for different reasons (i also happen to have both singles). i mean i did name my ipod after sweet talking spoon song (i should note all my computer stuff is named after enz songs).
That's awesome . I love both those songs, too, you've made me want to go listen to some '70s era Enz now.

And the video. Oh. My. God. Thank you for sharing that, that was hilarious (the picture of them at the very beginning of the clip-had that been my first exposure to the group I would've expected them to be a band that was doing cheesy '70s hard rock or something ). Kinda cool, though, it's really interesting to see footage from old TV shows as it is, but seeing what New Zealand had for entertainment shows back then is particularly fun.

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i just hate that parts of the video are missing. given how everyone feels the need to archive everything, it's unbelievable that there was a time when tv stations wiped their tapes because they didn't think stuff needed to be kept forever. i'm glad most of both of the songs are there, though.
I know, I've never understood that whole "erasing things" deal, either! But still, yeah, at least most of it is there, so that's something.
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Is there any sign of a new Crowded House album? I wasn't really taken with Intriguer from a couple of years back. Amsterdam excluded, I love that song.

Worries me a little if they keep making albums like this they will turn into REM which in the end was a case of nobody was listening.

Neil is such a genius, maybe he'd fire up more if he focused on solo efforts.
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That's awesome . I love both those songs, too, you've made me want to go listen to some '70s era Enz now.

And the video. Oh. My. God. Thank you for sharing that, that was hilarious (the picture of them at the very beginning of the clip-had that been my first exposure to the group I would've expected them to be a band that was doing cheesy '70s hard rock or something ). Kinda cool, though, it's really interesting to see footage from old TV shows as it is, but seeing what New Zealand had for entertainment shows back then is particularly fun.
i love both of them too. i like some of their early stuff (like pre-mental notes) but some of it is a little too folksy for me. but mental notes is easily one of my favourite albums of theirs.

it's funny, i had seen that first photo before and always thought it was such a strange photo, since it doesn't at all match the kind of music they ever made. i guess they were just wearing whatever was fashionable at the time and hadn't gotten to that point yet where they were wearing the weird suits and such.

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I know, I've never understood that whole "erasing things" deal, either! But still, yeah, at least most of it is there, so that's something.
whoops, i forgot to add the word "today" in my previous post, but you got what i meant. i guess the attitude back then isn't too surprising since reruns didn't really exist so stuff was just aired once, so i guess they figured what was the need of keeping things around?

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Is there any sign of a new Crowded House album? I wasn't really taken with Intriguer from a couple of years back. Amsterdam excluded, I love that song.

Worries me a little if they keep making albums like this they will turn into REM which in the end was a case of nobody was listening.

Neil is such a genius, maybe he'd fire up more if he focused on solo efforts.
i believe neil is working on a solo album right now. i agree with you about the direction crowded house has been headed. last time i saw them, their concert could've easily been played to a retirement home - everything was a ballad/slow song. so depressing. and intriguer wasn't that good of an album either.
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Together Alone is far and away the best thing Crowded House ever did. For once they broke out of that tight (admittedly great) pop framework and became something expansive. Private Universe, Catherine Wheels, Nails in My Feet... all great stuff.
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Together Alone is far and away the best thing Crowded House ever did. For once they broke out of that tight (admittedly great) pop framework and became something expansive. Private Universe, Catherine Wheels, Nails in My Feet... all great stuff.
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I'd rather Neil kept working with Crowded House than doing solo material. I think he's always produced his best stuff when working with the band. Intriguer was at least a step up from Time on Earth, especially Saturday Sun, which is in my top 15 Crowdies songs. Don't see a solo album being anything but sedate and slow (Neil, don't head down the same dull path as Tim has!).

It's a shame that whenever the Crowdies perform in Australia/New Zealand nowadays, they pretty much end up playing to huge audiences who just want the hits. The club shows in North America and Europe sound so much more vital and incredible. Just compare the setlists! Still, a couple of the shows I saw in 2010 were pretty impressive and Neil inserted some awesome rarities and requests into the set. The 2011 New Zealand shows looked quite limp by comparison - I'm glad I didn't travel for them after contemplating it.
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Neil's solo activities got off to quite a good start in the late nineties with 'Try Whistling This' (although it is very of its time probably; 'redo some of the demos, put some samples and shit under it'). But I kind of lost interest after that.

Oh and 'Finn', the album he did with his brother in 1995 which sold about 2 copies, has some really good stuff on it. 'Bullets In My Hairdo', 'Angels Heap', 'Paradise (Wherever You Are), 'Kiss the Road of Rarotonga'.
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How can you reel off a list of highlights from the first Finn Brothers album without Suffer Never! That was fucking awesome when I saw Neil do it with Pajama Club too.

As for Neil's solo albums, I adore Try Whistling This, even if it utterly keels over and dies at the end with Dream Date onwards ... One Nil is a more consistent and even album that I've come to appreciate more and more lately, but for me it doesn't have any songs quite on the level of Last One Standing, She Will Have Her Way, Sinner, or Twisty Bass.

Don't really see him doing solo material like either of those albums at this stage though. I guess my fear is that he'd basically do more Either Side of the World sort of stuff, which the older hardcore Neil fans seemed to love but I found a bit boring.
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How can you reel off a list of highlights from the first Finn Brothers album without Suffer Never!
Because, to be quite honest, I can't even remember that song or what it sounds like.

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As for Neil's solo albums, I adore Try Whistling This, even if it utterly keels over and dies at the end with Dream Date onwards ... One Nil is a more consistent and even album that I've come to appreciate more and more lately, but for me it doesn't have any songs quite on the level of Last One Standing, She Will Have Her Way, Sinner, or Twisty Bass.

Don't really see him doing solo material like either of those albums at this stage though. I guess my fear is that he'd basically do more Either Side of the World sort of stuff, which the older hardcore Neil fans seemed to love but I found a bit boring.
One Nil (geddit) probably came along at the wrong time in my life. I don't think I've ever listened to it more than three or four times.
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