GirlsAloudFan
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Yes...U2!!!
Let's talk about them for a while. They're actually, ya know, cool.
Let's talk about them for a while. They're actually, ya know, cool.
That's where I think you're wrong.
Creating 12 songs that compliment each other well onto an album means something. It's music. If it takes you from Feeling A to Feeling B, in a good way, not X&Y making me want to headbutt the nearest child, then it succeeds. Music is creative expression, in any form. I like concept albums when they're done well and don't come off as airy and pretentious. Coldplay doesn't have a firm identity as a band other than the "band that sounds like everyone else." That's not saying I don't like their music or I feel that any band with obvious influences is terrible, but they can't reconcile those influences with an original enough sound to make them their own, you know? Having a "concept" doesn't negate the fact that they're still grasping for their own footing in the realm of rock music - as pompous as that may sound.
You can make the argument that "U2 doesn't care anymore," but I will wholly disagree. All That You Can't Leave Behind is a great album, with songs unique to them at that period of time that still hold up today. Bomb, however, is an overproduced collection of singles with no staying power, and it's one of the band's biggest missteps, in my opinion.
Again, this is all subjective.
Yes...U2!!!
Let's talk about them for a while. They're actually, ya know, cool.
Creating 12 songs that compliment each other well onto an album means something. It's music. If it takes you from Feeling A to Feeling B, in a good way, not X&Y making me want to headbutt the nearest child, then it succeeds. Music is creative expression, in any form. I like concept albums when they're done well and don't come off as airy and pretentious. Coldplay doesn't have a firm identity as a band other than the "band that sounds like everyone else." That's not saying I don't like their music or I feel that any band with obvious influences is terrible, but they can't reconcile those influences with an original enough sound to make them their own, you know? Having a "concept" doesn't negate the fact that they're still grasping for their own footing in the realm of rock music - as pompous as that may sound.
That's what EYKIW is for.
Then again, you're probably safer in here.
Everyone asumes they don't have their footing in the rock world but they do whether even they realize it. They don't sound like other bands. They have their own sound like I described.
You can think ATYCLB is good like you said it is all subjective but you can't deny they were going for hits and radio friendly stuff. They started to care more about selling records then anything else.
00's U2 isn't gunning for hits.
They wanted accessibility; Grammys, hits, and money are the benefits of that.
But I agree with you to a certain extent; you're forgetting The Million Dollar Hotel soundtrack though, and I think your position will be invalid in about 5 months.
Unless you think U2's next album won't top VLV.
You really think so? I can't agree with that, and I don't even think Laz could, either. The last two albums have been very obvious with their intentions.
U2: The Business wants that, but I still don't think that U2: The Band wants that.
BULLSHIT.
Show me one review that doesn't mention U2. I dare you.
They are derivative. Everyone else sees it, why can't you?
Wait, now I'm saying Obi-Wan's lines.
MDH sounds like making a pop soundtrack to me. It is the prelude to ATYCLB. The only thing that sounds like it was an attempt at art was Ground Beneath Her Feet and they needed a little help on that one.
Show me one review that doesn't mention U2. I dare you.
00's U2 isn't gunning for hits. 00's U2 has been trying to craft THE ETERNAL SONG. Just look at Bono's review of Window In The Skies back in '06. They feel that they can best achieve this and create their grandest statement by distilling their sound to its most beloved qualities. They want to be remembered, and they do want to make something truly special.
Kind of like our good buddies in Coldplay. Except they have a different means of going about it.
I'm getting lazy, but Lumpy here gets it.
Everyone asumes they don't have their footing in the rock world but they do whether even they realize it. They don't sound like other bands. They have their own sound like I described.
You can think ATYCLB is good like you said it is all subjective but you can't deny they were going for hits and radio friendly stuff. They started to care more about selling records then anything else.
I disagree here. The songs on MDH should have been the direction they took instead of what ultimately became ATYCLB. The Ground Beneath Her Feet is their best song from this decade.
And you can't use an argument like they needed a little help for it, because Coldplay got plenty of help from Eno on Viva La Vida. I don't care who helps as long as it's good.
They are derivative. Everyone else sees it, why can't you?
I'll concede this to you... IGN didn't mention U2 once but then they are not exactly the height of the musical critique set...
IGN: Viva La Vida Review
I'll concede this to you... IGN didn't mention U2 once but then they are not exactly the height of the musical critique set...
IGN: Viva La Vida Review
If U2: The Band didn't want that, they wouldn't do it. Period. I don't buy that at all.
Did anyone look at the comments section there? Good 'ol Shart1780 had to mention U2.
If U2: The Band didn't want that, they wouldn't do it. Period. I don't buy that at all.
Did anyone look at the comments section there? Good 'ol Shart1780 had to mention U2.
Hold on there a second. Define "it". What are they doing exactly that a real™ band wouldn't?
00's U2 isn't gunning for hits.
They are doing the opposite of your statement here:
You're judging motive without having any real facts.
Wragging on a band for being derivative of another is kind of silly when you think about it. I can't think of a single band today that doesn't take some (or all) of it's sound from a band that came before...