Coldplay - Viva La Vida - ongoing discussion

[LemonMelon]

It's odd because I do hear sex and shuffle and soul in their music as you put it and I think that's why I get angry because I don't understand why you can't...

I could in songs like Yellow and Shiver. Not so much in the last couple. The songs are too grand and sweeping for such things...except for Yes, perhaps. The rest of the time they're too busy gathering together the armies of Heaven to battle the demons of the past (X&Y) or whatever.

 

[lazarus]

To be fair, the new Supergrass is a pretty pale combination of T. Rex riff-rock and Bowie at his most preening and lyrically sleazy, along with some of the more traditional Britpop that the band is known for. That sounds great, but very few of the songs are memorable (though When I Needed You is pretty great), and playing spot-the-influence is rather easy with that one. I prefer Road To Rouen.

I was underwhelmed with R2R, and while Diamond HH is a bit derivative, at least they're rocking again. Of course, neither of them are as good as LOOP.

 

[lazarus]

FIXED.

Or, to keep this on the topic of Coldplay...

God Put a FAIL Upon Your Face

Fixed again.

 

[LemonMelon]

I was underwhelmed with R2R, and while Diamond HH is a bit derivative, at least they're rocking again. Of course, neither of them are as good as LOOP.

LOOP features just about everything I love about the band. I can understand the frustration with R2R, but damn, there are some spectacular melodies on that one. Tales Of Endurance? Get outta here. My favorite will always be I Should Coco, because my tastes aren't sophisticated enough to be immune to such a record's charms.

 

[U2Fanatic4ever]

this is fun to watch...

 

[elevated_u2_fan]

I could in songs like Yellow and Shiver. Not so much in the last couple. The songs are too grand and sweeping for such things...except for Yes, perhaps. The rest of the time they're too busy gathering together the armies of Heaven to battle the demons of the past (X&Y) or whatever.

Your telling me a song like Amsterdam or Rush Of Blood or even The Scientist have no soul?

 

[LemonMelon]

Your telling me a song like Amsterdam or Rush Of Blood or even The Scientist have no soul?

Last COUPLE - X&Y and Viva.

 

[Zoots]

ROB > VLV > Parachutes

IMO



ETA: Holy shit Rush of Blood abbreviates to Rob(33)

 

[elevated_u2_fan]

Last COUPLE - X&Y and Viva.

oh, alright then, you just mentioned two songs from Parachutes so I thought you were just refering to it...

As corny as some of the lyrics are, I hear a lot of soul on X&Y ucks:

And Viva La Vida will take a while to process.

 

[U2Fanatic4ever]

ROB > VLV > Parachutes

IMO



ETA: Holy shit Rush of Blood abbreviates to Rob(33)

oooooooooooooooo a omen....


silly zoots!

 

[elevated_u2_fan]

ROB > VLV > Parachutes

IMO



ETA: Holy shit Rush of Blood abbreviates to Rob(33)

AROBTTH...

AROBTTH>Parachutes>Viva La Vida>X&Y imo...

 

[Zoots]

AROBTTH sounds like Eye-Rack, like something is being pronounced horribly wrong!

 

[LemonMelon]

oh, alright then, you just mentioned two songs from Parachutes so I thought you were just refering to it...

As corny as some of the lyrics are, I hear a lot of soul on X&Y ucks:

And Viva La Vida will take a while to process.

All I hear on X&Y is the faint ka-ching of cash registers in the distance.

Viva sounds amazing, but I can't help but feel that the songs aren't about anything in particular. I enjoy listening to it, but it doesn't move me.

 

[GirlsAloudFan]

I just now caught the rerun of Coldplay's appearance on the Daily Show from last night.

I couldn't help but think that Jon Stewart was making some not-so-subtle jabs at the band's choice of clothing during their little interview.

Jon Stewart vs. Chris Martin...

Stewart FTW.

 

[Screwtape2]

All I hear on X&Y is the faint ka-ching of cash registers in the distance.

You seriously don't think they were trying to do something artistic? You may be confusing it with ATYCLB.

 

[Screwtape2]

I just now caught the rerun of Coldplay's appearance on the Daily Show from last night.

I couldn't help but think that Jon Stewart was making some not-so-subtle jabs at the band's choice of clothing during their little interview.

Jon Stewart vs. Chris Martin...

Stewart FTW.

I noticed that too.

Honestly though I can't believe people are making fun of Coldplay's fashion sense on a U2 forum.

 

[LemonMelon]

You seriously don't think they were trying to do something artistic? You may be confusing it with ATYCLB.

I don't find Kite any more cloying than Fix You, no.

 

[Screwtape2]

I don't find Kite any more cloying than Fix You, no.

Fix You is the one example of the band trying to have a hit I'll give you that but stuff like Low, X&Y, Square One and others are thought out and creative. They almost had a concept album. If that isn't artistic I don't what is.

 

[Zoots]

U2 has been the enemy of art since 2000!

I'm only being partly facetious.

 

[Screwtape2]

U2 has been the enemy of art since 2000!

I'm only being partly facetious.

What?! I thought I was the enemy of art.

 

[Zoots]

Chris Martin invented art. That much I know.

 

[LemonMelon]

Honestly though I can't believe people are making fun of Coldplay's fashion sense on a U2 forum.

 

[elevated_u2_fan]

Is that Johnny? I like his response: "oh"

 

[LemonMelon]

Is that Johnny? I like his response: "oh"

Yeah, it's Jonny. Took me forever to come up with a half-decent looking model for him. He doesn't have any particularly unusual characteristics.

I want to fit that scene into the episode somewhere. It's quite good.

 

[UberBeaver]

You seriously don't think they were trying to do something artistic?

I think all Chris Martin wants to do is something "artistic", I just don't think he knows what that even means.

 

[LemonMelon]

I think all Chris Martin wants to do is something "artistic", I just don't think he knows what that even means.

But he knows what other people think it means.

 

[BoMac]

Honestly, I think the "music is subjective, so discussing it is basically pointless" argument that gets made all too often when things get heated is a bit fluffy

You can say something like: "I don't like Coldplay because of XYZ." Or: "I think Fixed You is the worst song on X & Y because it's a contrived attempt a creating that epic ballad." Or something along those lines.

That's perfectly acceptable. But for me, when someone says those things but adds on stuff like (I'm paraphrasing, of course): "I can't believe you don't see it! How can you not hear it?! What the hell is wrong with you?!" That's crossing the line, in my opinion.

And therein lies the difference, and that, to me, is where the "music is subjective" argument comes in. I don't hear "it" because we all process music differently.

AROBTTH...

AROBTTH>Parachutes>Viva La Vida>X&Y imo...

I agree.

WIN!!

 

[phanan]

AROBTTH>VLV>Parachutes>X&Y

 

[LemonMelon]

Parachutes > VLV > AROBTTH > a busker covering AROBTTH in its entirety > X&Y

 

[elevated_u2_fan]

I think all Chris Martin wants to do is something "artistic", I just don't think he knows what that even means.

a new challenger appears...