Chinese Democracy, Nov 25, through Best Buy ??? - Page 6 - U2 Feedback

Go Back   U2 Feedback > Lypton Village > Lemonade Stand > Just the Bang and the Clatter
Click Here to Login
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 11-23-2008, 09:57 PM   #76
Blue Crack Supplier
 
Zoots's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: the great beyond
Posts: 36,802
Local Time: 01:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by U2DMfan View Post
I was prepared to give the expected 'negative' response like some of you.
It's just fun to hate on such things, ain't it?
I don't know if you were talking about me but I certainly did not go in deciding that I will hate it no matter what. In fact, I was a pretty big GNR fan back in the day and I was actually kinda looking forward to this... but on first listen, it really sounds quite bad and not to mention, boring! It did get a bit better on second listen and there are a few bright spots here and there like a guitar solo or a pretty melody but overall I'm still quite underwhelmed. Maybe it's a grower? I don't know. But it does seem like Axl took some cues from the nu metal genre? and maybe that's what's putting me off. Not to mention, his voice is mostly awful throughout the album! I loved his voice on Appetite and even the Illusions but here it sounds strained and screechy.
__________________

__________________
Zoots is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2008, 12:10 AM   #77
The Male
 
LemonMelon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Hollywoo
Posts: 65,817
Local Time: 03:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by U2DMfan View Post
In other words, this could have used some fat trimming not unlike the new Metallica, and much the same as Death Magnetic, it's more nostalgic in spots than anything.
Derivative but not that bad.
Agreed 100%.
__________________

__________________


Now.
LemonMelon is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2008, 01:14 AM   #78
Blue Crack Addict
 
Reggie Thee Dog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Hell Ain't A Bad Place To Be...
Posts: 17,934
Local Time: 03:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zootlesque View Post
Maybe it's a grower? I don't know. But it does seem like Axl took some cues from the nu metal genre? and maybe that's what's putting me off. Not to mention, his voice is mostly awful throughout the album! I loved his voice on Appetite and even the Illusions but here it sounds strained and screechy.


Yeah, Axl sounds like he's really straining to get that big vocal sound, and I agree that is does sound a bit 'off'...but for the most part this is a much better album than I thought.

The title track is OK, but starting with 'Better' the album picks up and kind of ebbs and flows throughout the remainder of the album. I'm not sure if 'Madagascar' is epic or overblown...but it's definitely interesting. 'This I Love'...is very cool...and 'Street of Dreams' is 'November Rain' II.

I will say the guitar work is stellar, which I guess is expected when you have 5 or 6 guitarists on the album, which I think may turn some people off (lack of cohesiveness). I dunno, I think it is a 'grower' Zoots...

But is it "Guns N' Roses"......it's definitely Axl...
__________________
Reggie Thee Dog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2008, 10:05 AM   #79
Refugee
 
brooklynmike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Like landing a 747 onto your front lawn
Posts: 1,862
Local Time: 06:05 PM
It's a very powerful album. Not the greatest of all time, but very good. 4 Great songs, 6 very very good songs, the rest decent enough.

You really need a few listens- there are so many subtleties that you miss in a quick listen. The songs don't hit you right away, they unfold. It's a very rich album, must listen at least once on a good sound system and you'll say WOW!

Great guitar work as well.

No it's not Slash and Duff, so don't expect it to sound like it.

Recommended listening:
Prostitute
This I Love
There Was a Time
Street of Dreams
Better
__________________
brooklynmike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2008, 12:30 PM   #80
Blue Crack Addict
 
Reggie Thee Dog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Hell Ain't A Bad Place To Be...
Posts: 17,934
Local Time: 03:05 PM
I just want my free Dr. Pepper now....
__________________
Reggie Thee Dog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2008, 03:05 PM   #81
Rock n' Roll Doggie
VIP PASS
 
U2DMfan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: It's Inside A Black Hole
Posts: 6,637
Local Time: 05:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zootlesque View Post
I don't know if you were talking about me but I certainly did not go in deciding that I will hate it no matter what. In fact, I was a pretty big GNR fan back in the day and I was actually kinda looking forward to this... but on first listen, it really sounds quite bad and not to mention, boring! It did get a bit better on second listen and there are a few bright spots here and there like a guitar solo or a pretty melody but overall I'm still quite underwhelmed. Maybe it's a grower? I don't know. But it does seem like Axl took some cues from the nu metal genre? and maybe that's what's putting me off. Not to mention, his voice is mostly awful throughout the album! I loved his voice on Appetite and even the Illusions but here it sounds strained and screechy.
I wasn't addressing anybody in particular Zoots, just an attitude about this album that has grown over the last decade. Whatever you feel is probably perfectly understandable. I wouldn't ever to claim to have been a 'huge' GNR fan, I was always certanly a fan but I prefered bands like Metallica, Pantera and Megadeth at the time. GNR was always the one 'hard rock' band that was cool with the metal heads.

Don't we all have to sort of agree that it was more or less unwritten that this thing would suck? The 'development hell' , the first song they officially released several years back (the soundtrack song) was pure horseshit and the leaks have been all over the place. Plus, the MTV appearance which was quite embarassing for Axl. I think most people were ready to pounce like wolves.

All I'm saying, after one listen, it's not a sacreligious record.
Maybe it's a sacreligious concept for some, GNR w/o Duff, Matt and Slash.

I didn't notice too much of a Nu Metal inspiration.
High-low, dropped C guitars, hip hop nonsense. Cookie monster vocals.
I loathe that shit, I hope I would have noticed.

I did hear some sampling and electronic bits, which worked a bit on some songs more than others. The one with the MLK sample, part of it worked for me and part of me thought it was ot of place. Eh, I dunno.

I am not giving the album a ringing endorsement, by any means, just surprised I didn't outright laugh at it.
__________________
U2DMfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2008, 03:45 PM   #82
Blue Crack Distributor
 
Lila64's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: ♥Set List Lane♥
Posts: 52,710
Local Time: 04:05 PM
__________________
Lila64 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2008, 04:25 PM   #83
Blue Crack Addict
 
Irishteen's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Dublin, Ireland
Posts: 29,624
Local Time: 12:05 AM
The album's better than I thought it would be, most of the songs weren't laughably bad like I imagined they would be but seriously I would of enjoyed it more if it was as bad as I was expecting. It turned out to be just boring
__________________
Irishteen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2008, 01:28 PM   #84
Blue Crack Addict
 
Reggie Thee Dog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Hell Ain't A Bad Place To Be...
Posts: 17,934
Local Time: 03:05 PM
This album is not boring...

It's complex, complicated, overblown, epic, crazy....but it's not boring.

The best thing about album reviews, done right after listening to the album once is that they're jaded. I mean if you think Axl is a crazy, self-absorbed artist, then you're going to hate the album...and those who love Gun will most likely like the album in most cases. So I have to laugh at the reviews who listen to the album once and then claim "Chinese Democracy' is 'no' 'Appetite For Destruction'....how do you know for sure?!?!?!......you don't...it's all subjective or objective or perspective...

Yeah, I dig old G n' R, but I was totally prepared to not like this album...but I have to say it has exceeded all my expectations. Street of Dreams, and Better are in heavy rotation on my iTunes right now...
__________________
Reggie Thee Dog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2008, 02:12 PM   #85
Rock n' Roll Doggie
ALL ACCESS
 
pepokiss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Santiago, Chile
Posts: 7,973
Local Time: 07:05 PM
let's say it this way...

it's no spaghetti incident or Lies... nor AFD

it's right there with UYI I and II... good albums with a lot of extra weight
__________________
pepokiss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2008, 03:08 PM   #86
Blue Crack Supplier
 
Zoots's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: the great beyond
Posts: 36,802
Local Time: 01:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pepokiss View Post
it's right there with UYI I and II... good albums with a lot of extra weight
The UYI albums are eleventy billion times better! In fact, the UYI albums condensed to one disc is even better than Appetite!
__________________
Zoots is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2008, 03:12 PM   #87
Blue Crack Supplier
 
elevated_u2_fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: I'm here 'cus I don't want to go home
Posts: 31,694
Local Time: 06:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zootlesque View Post
The UYI albums are eleventy billion times better!
that's not even a number
__________________
elevated_u2_fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2008, 03:41 PM   #88
Blue Crack Supplier
 
Zoots's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: the great beyond
Posts: 36,802
Local Time: 01:05 AM


Actually that said, some of the songs off Chinese Democracy are growing on me now.
__________________
Zoots is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2008, 03:50 PM   #89
Blue Crack Supplier
 
elevated_u2_fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: I'm here 'cus I don't want to go home
Posts: 31,694
Local Time: 06:05 PM
like the plague?
__________________
elevated_u2_fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2008, 03:53 PM   #90
Blue Crack Supplier
 
Zoots's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: the great beyond
Posts: 36,802
Local Time: 01:05 AM
like a somewhat decent rock record.
__________________

__________________
Zoots is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
chinese democracy, gnr, guns n' roses

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:05 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Design, images and all things inclusive copyright © Interference.com