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Old 11-22-2008, 01:03 PM   #61
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I listened to the stream and agree that there are some good songs on there, but it lacks any sort of cohesiveness. It just seems all over the place at times, and way over-processed and over-produced.

That being said, it seems that the near mythical status of this project has many long-time fans really wanting to like the album in spite of its glaring faults. Read their MySpace page. One guy said this album is better than Appetite....umm, no.
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Old 11-22-2008, 02:14 PM   #62
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There are some great songs on there, but I can't help feeling let down.. Like, it took 17 years to make this?!?

This is probably the best review of the album:
Chuck Klosterman reviews Chinese Democracy | The A.V. Club
Hey, thanks for posting that review! That guy is a big Axl fan, it seems. I may end up getting this if it's only 10 bucks at BB. Plus I'm in a GNR mood this weekend.
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Old 11-22-2008, 02:54 PM   #63
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I don't know, whoever the lead guitarist is (Buckethead? Chickenmouth? whatever) rips some kickass solos on the album.

I need to listen to this again.
Yes there are some absolutely awesome solos on the record; for an Axl solo album it's funny that he is overshadowed by basically everything else
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Old 11-22-2008, 03:50 PM   #64
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Hey, thanks for posting that review! That guy is a big Axl fan, it seems. I may end up getting this if it's only 10 bucks at BB. Plus I'm in a GNR mood this weekend.
Zoots, I've been listening to the album for about a day now. I think you might like it. Its pretty good. Its no Appetite for sure, but its better than Lies so far.
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Zoots, I've been listening to the album for about a day now. I think you might like it. Its pretty good. Its no Appetite for sure, but its better than Lies so far.
Haha cool! Btw, did you see my post in the Top 100 results thread? I commented on you including No Code. And I see you included the Illusions too.
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Old 11-22-2008, 04:14 PM   #66
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Listening to this monstrosity right now on myspace. The title track is kind of fun, but it sounds like every other post-grunge pseudo-metal rocker ever made.
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Here's my review of the album that I just posted on RYM

"Ah the fabled Chinese Democracy, years in the making and with everyone either expecting, it to be awful or to be amazing or people not really caring either way. I fall into the third category, I was never a big Guns N' Roses fan, although they do have a few great songs. This album however, I just had to hear it. It doesn't matter whether it sucks or not, I just had to hear it.

The album kicks off with the title track, which has a nice enough build up and rocks better hard. All good so far right? Well that is until Axl starts singing. Overall on this album it is his vocals that are the weakest link and it's painfully obvious right from the start. However, some brilliant instrumentation makes up for that on "Chinese Democracy", giving the album a pretty good start. However, it was obviously far too good to last and by the second track "Shackler's Revenge", the album already has a major dip in quality. "Better" also has its high points and sounds like it could be a really great track until that part of the chorus, that just lets the whole thing down completely. The completely boring second half of the song doesn't help it either.

The over-the-top "Street of Dreams" proves to be a surprising highlight of the album, with strings, piano and everything you expect in a ballad, come together and actually work quite well. Too bad Axl seems incapable of making more than one great track at once; "If the World" while showing the band trying something new at times, just doesn't work at all. From this point on however the album just turns into background music; some great guitar work, some over-produced vocals but nothing that grabs attention at all. It's with the half a minute intro to "Riad 'n the Bedouins" that the album finally grabs the listener's attention again. However Axl again delivers a really sub-par vocal performance that just ruins the whole thing again. Half of his vocals in this song are him screaming, which just does not work. The song however sounds at least slightly interesting, so that's an improvement on the last several tracks; too bad it really struggles to deliver anything beyond that.

"Sorry" has everything a bad song should have. Awful guest vocals, uninteresting guitar-work, and over-processed vocals by Axl; it is easily the worst song on the album. The fact that it also doubles as the third longest song on the album doesn't help matters either. The equally awful "I.R.S." comes next and really the less said about that one the better. "This I Love" is meant to be one of the earliest written tracks on the album and it's no surprise that it also happens to be one of the five strongest tracks on the album. The final track "Prostitute" is a fairly strong song too, much better than the majority of the other album and the album at least finishes on a high.

Overall the album is pretty weak; with about two songs that I would class as being great and about three maybe that are good. The majority of the songs are simply average, with a couple of bad ones thrown in as well. Surprisingly the weakest link on this album is not the band; it is Axl. Despite being basically the Axl solo show, the band proves to be much stronger than him in every regard, with some of the solos even being pretty great. So where can Guns N' Rose go from here? It's simple; they should get rid of Axl.

3.6/10"
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Old 11-22-2008, 05:11 PM   #68
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I'm actually enjoying the album quite a bit. It's just derivative and overblown.

The Dr. Pepper will be better.
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Okay, so I dont expect much out of Axl...but I thought that there would be a decent single and thats it. The whole album blows.
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Old 11-23-2008, 11:53 AM   #70
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Sounds like it has been being produced for the last 15 years.

This is the poster child for why downloading is a good thing.

It's horrible, if I'd spent money on it I'd be really pissed off. It has almost zero redeeming qualities.

It's taking up valuable space on my hard drive............
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This album seems like either, after more listens, you're going to love it more or hate it more. I like it more each time.

It's funny, I never thought that Metallica and Guns N' Roses would release new studio albums within the same year ever again. Gen X rock still lives!
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Alright, so I listened to the whole stream on myspace...

I don't know.... most of it seems so unmemorable! Chinese Democracy didn't even seem like that great an opener. It was only okay for me and the second song was just awful! I could not get into Shackler's Revenge. Better was okay, somewhat better than the opening track I guess but again nothing great. It had a somewhat decent guitar solo though. Street Of Dreams didn't do much for me although it started out good. If the World and everything following was boring as hell and I still patiently sat thru it all so I could give all the songs a fair chance. Finally after the mostly awful Riad n the Bedouins, things seem to look up. IRS is a somewhat decent number. I remember listening to the demo a few years back. And Madagascar was not bad I guess, with lots of samples like MLK and a repeat of the Cool Hand Luke thing. And then This I Love... this is clearly the best song here! It almost does not even belong with the rest. The sad melody made me feel sorry for Axl actually! lol And then the closer, Prostitute sounds good enough. Nice outro. So the good songs all seem bunched up at the end! Maybe I'll give it one more listen but right now I seriously doubt I'm gonna buy this unmemorable mess of an album!
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^What are you talking about? Some fan on the news said it was the "greatest" album of all-time.
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Old 11-23-2008, 09:29 PM   #74
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^What are you talking about? Some fan on the news said it was the "greatest" album of all-time.
lol. Oh man, did you see the gazillion reviews at bestbuy.com? It's like a 5 star fest! I don't know what those people are hearing.
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Old 11-23-2008, 09:47 PM   #75
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I gave it a pretty superficial once-through listen today.

I was prepared to give the expected 'negative' response like some of you.
It's just fun to hate on such things, ain't it?

I won't make a big judgment after just one listen but I have to say, I am certainly more impressed than I thought I'd be. Which isn't particularly a lot but at times, there is some decent songwriting going on there.

His voice grates on it, there is just no way around it. It always did sorta, just like Corgan but in spots (the high pitched spots) it's a little embarrassing. But there are some ideas here that people would have swallowed easier if he had Duff and Slash on board.

Mostly it's a bit too much. You can tell it had a long gestation period.
By the middle of the album I was ready for it to be over, not in a "this is total shit" reaction but in a "I feel like I've already heard the gist of new GNR" reaction.

In other words, this could have used some fat trimming not unlike the new Metallica, and much the same as Death Magnetic, it's more nostalgic in spots than anything.
Derivative but not that bad.
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