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Old 11-11-2008, 03:47 PM   #16
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I agree with the original post. I like when the singers use their NATURAL voice. I prefer singers that may not have the GREATEST voices but sing with EMOTION and RESPECT for the craft - Perry Farrel, the guy from Beirut, right now I'm into Glasvegas who's singer has an thick Scottish accent and tons of emotion. I also like the Motown sound because you can hear the emotion in those songs.

I don't know what autotune is, but it sounds like CHEATING to me. ANd Anthony Keides sucks - Frusciante should take over that band.

I also like Karen O's voice. Also Aimee Mann, but I can't stand her songs. I think Eddie Veddor is outstanding vocally.
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People sure get all butt hurt about things these days. The author of that article seems to anal.
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I agree with the original post. I like when the singers use their NATURAL voice. I prefer singers that may not have the GREATEST voices but sing with EMOTION and RESPECT for the craft - Perry Farrel, the guy from Beirut, right now I'm into Glasvegas who's singer has an thick Scottish accent and tons of emotion. I also like the Motown sound because you can hear the emotion in those songs.

I don't know what autotune is, but it sounds like CHEATING to me. ANd Anthony Keides sucks - Frusciante should take over that band.

I also like Karen O's voice. Also Aimee Mann, but I can't stand her songs. I think Eddie Veddor is outstanding vocally.
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If you follow the link and read what the guy says about One with MJB.

Once you've used it once it's bad enough in my opinion. He could have told the producer to stick it up their ass it's his song. But he chose not to. That make him a lying cheating skumbag
So what one guy wrote on a blog makes Bono a lying cheating scumbag? Well then that makes you a... well I'll refrain.

Let me tell you a few things about that song. One it was recorded for the most part in a few takes on a stage not even in a studio, so you don't really have the luxury of a studio recording, secondly this was for MJB album so I doubt Bono had a whole lot of say in production, and third if you've heard the song I'm not sure how anyone can believe it has a lot of autotune. In fact it probably should use a little more, if perfection was what they were going for.

I think autotune is fine as long as you aren't using it throughout the song, which most of the time you can tell if it is... But I see nothing wrong with fixing a bum note here or there, nothing sucks more when you nail a take with the exception of one little note.
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if one features autotune, i shudder to think what it sounded like originally.
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in my opinion, autotune is just another tool that can be used in production, like compression or reverb. if an artists wants to use it for a record, that's perfectly fine with me. that being said, i don't see how any credible producer could replace a heartfelt, emotional, and slightly off-pitch vocal track with one that is digitized and lifeless but on pitch. i also believe that the true strength and power of an artist/band can only be seen in a live setting. any artist who is so off key that they have to use pitch correction live ain't worth shit in my book.
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ANd Anthony Keides sucks - Frusciante should take over that band.
Beav finds his inner PFact here.

Also, too, RESPECT needs to be found. That's the next step.
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Bob Dylan used autotune. Sorry, guys.
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Old 11-12-2008, 12:04 AM   #25
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I knew a backup singer for Shakira.
When they were recording her album in 2005, the first single used over 200 vocal takes.
Yes, I said 200. That means she sang the vocal 200 times. For one song. They then edited the best parts together for the final recording.
Did she use auto tune? I would bet on it.
So, even if singers are not using autotune, which 90% are, they're doing multiple takes to "get it right" to the extreme.
Hey, even jazz and classical recording do "studio tricks" to fix mistakes these days. It's not uncommon. It's very common. Anyone looking for purity better go back to pre-1963.
Autotune goes wrong when it's obvious. If anyone has actually listened to a Britney Spears or Jennifer Lopez track you know what it sounds like, because it's cranked.
As far as U2 goes, I can't say how much, if at all, Bono has used autotune. Probably some. Maybe quite a bit. But more importantly, he's most likely done many, many takes of tunes in the studio. "With Or Without You", recorded during what was arguably his vocal peak, was most likely at least a dozen takes spliced together.
Have you ever seen the UF documentary? Have you heard the raw vocal takes on "Pride"? Compare that with the album version.....a little different? Yep.

Does that take away from Bono's singing ability? Not to me.
It's a fact of the recording industry.

Listen to Eddie Vedder or Thom Yorke sing live vs. record. Pitchy at times? Hell yeah. Filled with emotion and getting the song across anyway? Hell yeah....
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I don't know what autotune is, but it sounds like CHEATING to me. ANd Anthony Keides sucks - Frusciante should take over that band.
That whole band sucks. Frusciante is wasting his talents.
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That whole band sucks. Frusciante is wasting his talents.

Let me say I am the last thing but a RHCP fan. Never liked their tunes.
However, Flea and the drummer are great players. The band lacks great tunes delivered by a great vocalist.
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I think Flea is an exceptional talent at bass. Chad Smith is nothing special. But musically, that trio could do something special. But they settle for trash. Kiedis is a clown. Poor lyrics, poor delivery, poor voice. The guy just sucks.

I really hate that band and their hype.
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I think Flea is an exceptional talent at bass. Chad Smith is nothing special. But musically, that trio could do something special. But they settle for trash. Kiedis is a clown. Poor lyrics, poor delivery, poor voice. The guy just sucks.

I really hate that band and their hype.
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ive seen RHCP several times, they are a good live band, anthony may not be the strongest vocalist but they have written at least one stellar album, blood sugar sex magic

as for autotune, who cares, i have been to recording sessions with amazingly talented singers who do take after take after take after take, its the nature of recording
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