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Old 01-14-2012, 07:08 PM   #316
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Old 01-14-2012, 08:04 PM   #317
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Old 01-14-2012, 08:34 PM   #318
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And if we're talking about expectations, I think it's safe to say that if KoL had been released by any other band, no one would be complaining about the top five placement. Almost all of the negative comments about it on here have been made in comparison to Radiohead's past albums or styles rather than of KoL's songs themselves.
Disagreed. I didn't dislike KoL because it was made by Radiohead, but because the music just wasn't very good.
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Old 01-14-2012, 08:59 PM   #319
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Disagreed. I didn't dislike KoL because it was made by Radiohead, but because the music just wasn't very good.
Well, saying that the music "just wasn't very good" isn't a terribly convincing argument. There is as much, if not more, sophistication of structure, attention to sequencing, originality in instrumentation and layering, and diversity of style on KoL as any other album released this year - even more so, I think, than its most frequent point of comparison, In Rainbows. Maybe it didn't speak to you personally, but it has all the hallmarks of a well-crafted album.

I always wonder whether these sorts of lists are more about "the best" albums of the year or "the favorite" albums of the year. To me at least, not liking an album does not necessarily make that album "bad." I can think of plenty of albums for which I do not necessarily care while still recognizing the talent and quality that went into them.
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Old 01-14-2012, 09:01 PM   #320
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I go for favorites because, it's like, my opinion, man.
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Old 01-14-2012, 09:05 PM   #321
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I forgot to add the essential 'in my opinion'.
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Old 01-14-2012, 09:17 PM   #322
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I can think of plenty of albums for which I do not necessarily care while still recognizing the talent and quality that went into them.
Same, but I'd never feel like putting them on my list - it would make list-making a rather joyless task if I didn't actually care for the music.
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I always wonder whether these sorts of lists are more about "the best" albums of the year or "the favorite" albums of the year. To me at least, not liking an album does not necessarily make that album "bad." I can think of plenty of albums for which I do not necessarily care while still recognizing the talent and quality that went into them.


Whenever I make "best of" lists, I am going basically by what my favorite stuff was in that time period. Sure there may be albums "better" out there in technical terms or whatever, but the stuff I pick is stuff that I personally enjoyed because it was fun or I could relate to it or the songwriting appealed to me or whatever. I don't know much about technical perfection, I don't focus a lot on the music's place within historical context of its time period, I sure as hell don't give a damn about being "cool" or "hip" with my choices. I just go with, "I liked this and I think it's worth hearing." Period. End of story.
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Old 01-15-2012, 01:01 AM   #324
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This is very, very true.

Not sure if you're an early-70s Bowie fan, tourist or Kieran, but if you are, Rubies is definitely worth giving a spin.

I will keep that in mind for some stage, down the line, thanks.

I'm not really a fan of early 70s Bowie, as it happens. Prefer late 70s Bowie.
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Same, but I'd never feel like putting them on my list - it would make list-making a rather joyless task if I didn't actually care for the music.

But music is meant to be a joyless chore, right? RIGHT GUYS!??
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Old 01-15-2012, 04:10 AM   #326
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I'm guessing even if I had submitted a list, Bjork wouldn't have placed. Oh well.

And KoL would have been ever higher.
Lance, you should post more in this section of the forum. God dammit.
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What GAF said.

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And if we're talking about expectations, I think it's safe to say that if KoL had been released by any other band, no one would be complaining about the top five placement. Almost all of the negative comments about it on here have been made in comparison to Radiohead's past albums or styles rather than of KoL's songs themselves.
I don't think this is a fair argument.

While I wouldn't say there is any specific track on KoL that I dislike per se, there also isn't one that really moves me at an emotional level; it's a very cerebral record compared to the more visceral In Rainbows, IMO.

Also, whenever I listen to KoL, I can't help but think that the entire record was recorded while Radiohead were hopped up on adderall or something. It seems like so much attention was made towards the tiny details, that the band sort of forgot about the larger picture (the songs as a whole) - so while the tunes themselves are not wholly deficient, I don't feel as though the individual pieces measure up to something greater than the sum of its parts.


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1. Washed Out - Within and Without (13)
2. Lykke Li - Wounded Rhymes (12)
3. Destroyer - Kaputt (11)
4. M83 - Hurry Up, We're Dreaming (11)
5. St. Vincent - Strange Mercy (11)
6. Dum Dum Girls - Only in Dreams (9)
7. Girls - Father, Son, Holy Ghost (9)
8. The Black Keys - El Camino (6)
9. Okkervil River - I Am Very Far (4)
10. EMA - Past Life Martyred Saints (3)
11. Mogwai - Hardcore Will Never Die, But You Will (3)
12. Bon Iver - Bon Iver (3)
13. Real Estate - Days (2)
14. Zola Jesus - Conatus (2)
15. Cults - Cults (1)
LOL. Definitely NO.
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